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Spacehamster said:
It's not a dumb EU game, becuase the EU games are a much more challenging... No way you could pull this of as a beginner in EU3 :wacko:

I remember my first day playing EU3, i was confused as hell it took me 1 hour to figure out how to unpause the game :wacko:
 

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I second that! We need the ability to assign more than one provinces to a governour. I think that would solve alot of problems. I think this would also bring the much needed "flair" that rome lacks as we will have governours who are more powerfull and important than others which will finally give them a "character" instead of just being a face with a number as it is now.
We need something like dutchies from CK.


How about a new event that triggers when two rival characters are governors of two adjacent provinces. The event is something like an internal border dispute and you are given 4 choices:
A: Tell the two to settle the issue themselves (X% chance one or both die, X% that one or both are wounded, X% nothing happens).
B: Find in favor of X. (X becomes governor of both provinces, increases revolt risk in Y's province, Y becomes rival of Ruler).
C: Find in favor of Y (Y becomes governor of both provinces, increases revolt risk in X's province, X becomes rival of Ruler).
D: You're sick and tired of the bickering kick them both out and assign new governors (both become rival of ruler).
 

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ElDuderino said:
How about a new event that triggers when two rival characters are governors of two adjacent provinces. The event is something like an internal border dispute and you are given 4 choices:
A: Tell the two to settle the issue themselves (X% chance one or both die, X% that one or both are wounded, X% nothing happens).
B: Find in favor of X. (X becomes governor of both provinces, increases revolt risk in Y's province, Y becomes rival of Ruler).
C: Find in favor of Y (Y becomes governor of both provinces, increases revolt risk in X's province, X becomes rival of Ruler).
D: You're sick and tired of the bickering kick them both out and assign new governors (both become rival of ruler).

Yes definitely a good event. And there would be room for lots of other great new events aswell.
I just cant stop stressing on how important it is that we have governours control more provinces. It would make such a big difference.
 

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Wdll said:
He tries to look clever, he fails miserably.

He just wants to say that he received too much negative feedback for just supporting his view that you shouldn't be able to conquer the world with the Aetolian League. Give him a break... Having different views on how the game should be designed is normal and desirable.

The great thing about paradox games is their modability. Most of the things he mentioned (weakening the minors, massive damage to provinces by barbarians) can easily be moded in the game.
 

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Spacehamster said:
rome_map_1.jpg


This was the first game I have played in Rome.

Nation: Macedonia
Version: 1.2
Difficulty: Normal

By 554 AVC my Macedonia is the sole remaining country, even though I played in a slow and relaxed way without rushing anything. :wacko:

It's not total world domination yet, as some uncolonized territory remains. But at this stage the game speed has sunk to a crawl, opening the character window causes a 5 seconds load and at least 3 governors die every month. Meaning continuing at this stage would be a frustrating, mindnagging nightmare.

Most everyone knows by now that NORMAL Difficulty is really EASY difficulty and anyone who isn't playing hard or very hard is just playing the romper room game of the game. I always start out on the most difficult level and work my way down if I need to, but, it's very rare that I need to. Last game I can remember that gave me a hard time on its highest difficulty was "Warlords IV" after the 1.04a patch man that AI is extremely challenging on those levels.
 

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First off, the greek nations are overpowered, including minors (Macedonia isn't *really* a minor), because there is so much greek culture and religion. Being able to invoke blessing of cupid every year with 90% success rate on top of all the conquering options gives you wayyyy more manpower than the culturally diverse Rome.

Yes, Macedonian is different culture from the other Greeks, but it's still a big step in the right direction. Especially with blessing of cupid and the ability to colonize on culture/religion right away (whereas roman colonies start off Etruscan or Osco Umbrian).

Secondly, the (other) screenshot shows 654, not 554. 654 is quite possible. I know as Rome I got locked into badboy wars around 530, and once the initial WE/manpower drain got under control, it was quite easy. The hard part was Seleucia. I suppose as Macedonia you could fight them early, before they control so much territory - the biggest block of all to WC is the simple fact that you can only take 3 provinces at a time from a Seleucia that can get to 50+ provinces. 51/3 = 17 = 85 years to conquer - and that's assuming there's no delays from sieges, etc. As Rome it's just too far away to mount a good war (the attrition from boats is murderous, and under new rules, you can't reinforce when you get there).

Well, that, and the fact that the game just gets outrageously tedious at that point. It was sort of fun to see "Mediterranean Control" go up when I conquered Carthage, but 5 years of replacing governors just to have another war with Seleucia... boring.
 

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JimboOmega said:
the biggest block of all to WC is the simple fact that you can only take 3 provinces at a time from a Seleucia that can get to 50+ provinces. 51/3 = 17 = 85 years to conquer - and that's assuming there's no delays from sieges, etc..
Actually I got the Seleucids in 4 wars: In the second war, one of the Seleucid provinces was held by Seleucid Rebels so I quickly rushed to the aid of the rebels, when the war was won by the rebels almost all of the Seleuicid provinces was transfered to me.
 

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Spacehamster said:
Actually I got the Seleucids in 4 wars: In the second war, one of the Seleucid provinces was held by Seleucid Rebels so I quickly rushed to the aid of the rebels, when the war was won by the rebels almost all of the Seleuicid provinces was transfered to me.

It's the return of turbo annex!

Too bad you can't support rebels =\. (In the sense of actual rebels, not hapless revolters)
 

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I'm really disappointed in Rome. Instead of making it its own distinct game that is meant for ancient empires its just a dull EU game. Victoria has a great economic system, HoI2 has a great military system, and EU has dumbed down versions of both to make gameplay extremely boring. I'm sorry to say this but Rome: Total War is still tons more fun than this.
After a few games of Total War Rome and Barbarians, I no longer play it. It was extremely boring after the first twenty or thirty minutes. While this game has some problems, which paradox is very good at correcting over time, I much prefer this version of rome. :cool:
 

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it is not the same type of games!! in one you can drive yourself your armies on the battlefield, in rome from paradox you have to manage your country...grand startegy, versus ameliorations and tactics...

but i think that paradox will use their innovative Rebels from In Nomine for future of Rome...

but for colonization, it s not won yet, but i m sure it will come on!!
 

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tyreynolds said:
After a few games of Total War Rome and Barbarians, I no longer play it. It was extremely boring after the first twenty or thirty minutes. While this game has some problems, which paradox is very good at correcting over time, I much prefer this version of rome. :cool:
I disagree one of the most rewarding strategy game experiences I ever had was surviving and prospering as Western Rome on Very Hard/Very Hard in Rome Total War Barbarian Invasion. You really have to pull every stategic trick know to man out of your backpocket to pull that off!
 

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Ok, face it Spacehamster as you are not a moron go play at VH :)
When you beat it there, find a mod that's supposed to make it harder not just a flavour mod. After you beat it there go change the settings that made it to easy for you to win.