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alexti

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But if you are playing as Castille and let Portugal colonize they are same culture group and you do get cores.
But not right away - that's the key. You want to get more cores very quickly, so that you can expand and in 50 years get more cores and repeat that again. If you go PU-colonization route then you delay this process. It will be 100-150 years before Portugal does significant colonization.
 

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But not right away - that's the key. You want to get more cores very quickly, so that you can expand and in 50 years get more cores and repeat that again. If you go PU-colonization route then you delay this process. It will be 100-150 years before Portugal does significant colonization.

And you dont get cores on their territory if they dont have cores themselves. So all those uncored colonies that they get sort of late (especially if they are stuck under a PU) do not get your core upon inheritance.
Furthermore, with all the warring, the amount of peacetime decreases significantly, and therefore the chances for inheriting PUs. You can not inherit during war.
 

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And you dont get cores on their territory if they dont have cores themselves. So all those uncored colonies that they get sort of late (especially if they are stuck under a PU) do not get your core upon inheritance.
I didn't know that.
Furthermore, with all the warring, the amount of peacetime decreases significantly, and therefore the chances for inheriting PUs. You can not inherit during war.
Can you integrate during the war? And are PU countries dragged into your wars automatically? The war limitation is quite significant for WC. In my cheese-free WC game I went without peace for around 200 years, sometime between 1450 and 1650.
 

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I didn't know that.

Can you integrate during the war? And are PU countries dragged into your wars automatically? The war limitation is quite significant for WC. In my cheese-free WC game I went without peace for around 200 years, sometime between 1450 and 1650.

Even if you could, integrating sucks and doesn't give you any cores regardless of culture.
 

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castille can push its BB close to max, then inherit while waiting for it to come down-italian ambition mission/landgrab in india/landgrab in china give war for 5 years followed by peace for 20+ years.
 

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Can you integrate during the war? And are PU countries dragged into your wars automatically? The war limitation is quite significant for WC. In my cheese-free WC game I went without peace for around 200 years, sometime between 1450 and 1650.

No, integrating works exactly like annexing a vassal-peace, 190+ relations, limited frequency...

However, you CAN inherit while your country is at war, just make sure your junior partners are at peace by not calling them. If you are reasonably on your way to a wc you really shouldn't need too much help to fight most of your wars.
 

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I'd give it to England, France and Bohemia.
- England, Occupy Paris mission. That is all.
- France. Release your vassals. Reconquest them. Destroy Burgundy.
- Bohemia. Dominate the Empire from the get-go and form the HRE. Pommerania, Bavaria and Hungary can all be force-unioned from game start.

All three of those nations can get you into a position where no-one can possibly threathen you within 25 years. Austria and Burgundy would come secondary for me, due to some good missions and the ability to easily become Emperor after the Bohemian King finally drops. Castille on the other hand is more awkward. Spanish lands arn't as rich and your missions are reasonably poor. Possible ofcourse. One good tactic would just be to take your neighbours out, claim France's throne and force them into a union, but that's a tough first war.

Finally, there's the interesting option of picking the GH (possibly the Timurids), ransacking Europe for all it's worth with free horde wars, and forming the Mughals by decision when you're done (or just fed up with the rebellions). The Mamluks may also even be a candidate. Lots of starting troops, -1 infamy a year from Tribal, good CBs on anyone you border, and infamy-free land if you can take the Timurids out, then Holy War once you're pats them. The issue with them is that you'll need to go Innovative to westernise. Combine that with overextension and the westernisation penalty and your stab costs go through the roof. And ofcourse, these two factions both suffer from the Western Europeans likely colonising in the new world, and it'll cost infamy to take those provinces.