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A christian monarchy, probably Castille if you want to go to America. That said, Bohemia is another excellent choice, since you can unite the HRE by ~1407 which will set you up to win.
 

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Uniting HRE by 1407? I'd like to see that

France would probably be a good pick as well. Just make sure to catch Castille, Portugal and England in a PU.

Other than that, join the HRE and get elected emperor :p

I believe that's the current record, you can check the hall of fame thread for screenies...
 

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You vassalise someone who adjoins the hordes - free IA for winning wars, and defending HRE members. You free imperial members for yet more IA.
I'm not sure how you get it quickly enough for a 1407 unification, but those would be the basic options.
 

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A christian monarchy, probably Castille if you want to go to America.
I think that England is better than Castille for this purpose - it starts with pre-made fleet and has nice missions giving lots of cores. What are Castille's advantages?

Other strong candidates are Ottomans and Mamluks - immediate Holy War vs Europe and superior units and tech or Golden Horde (no need for CB, no worries about infamy and insane power)
 

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I think that England is better than Castille for this purpose - it starts with pre-made fleet and has nice missions giving lots of cores. What are Castille's advantages?

Other strong candidates are Ottomans and Mamluks - immediate Holy War vs Europe and superior units and tech or Golden Horde (no need for CB, no worries about infamy and insane power)
Castille is... better? Not sure how else to put it.

More cores from PUs, closer to colonial territory, more money, and it has a land connection to europe which is useful for a WC.
 

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Castille is... better? Not sure how else to put it.

More cores from PUs, closer to colonial territory, more money, and it has a land connection to europe which is useful for a WC.
It still gets fewer "free" cores than England and PU-integration may take a while while England can get their French cores very quickly and that means being able to grab more land without overextension. Money is not really a problem for England, so having more doesn't help that much. Since the best first step in colonization is probably to colonize European islands, they will end up closest to the rest of colonial territory, so the original location doesn't matter and you can move capital as England. So neither of those make up for the explosive start that England has
 

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It still gets fewer "free" cores than England and PU-integration may take a while while England can get their French cores very quickly and that means being able to grab more land without overextension. Money is not really a problem for England, so having more doesn't help that much. Since the best first step in colonization is probably to colonize European islands, they will end up closest to the rest of colonial territory, so the original location doesn't matter and you can move capital as England. So neither of those make up for the explosive start that England has
Taking longer is a great thing for PUs, since it means that Portugal does a lot of your colonial work for you while you can concern yourself with Europe.
 

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I'd say Burgundy is the best. I almost did a WC with them and I didn't even try. I just wanted to be the strongest in Europe and that involved forming France and HRE, both tasks are easy with Burgundy, and things just snowballed into world domination. Burgundy is like France and Bohemia merged into one, only with a slight delay. After you achieve that (BUR->FRA->HRE) noone can stop you. Especially funny is almost permament curia control. And since you're Christian you just need to wait for Portugal and Castille to colonize for you and then force a PU.
 

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Taking longer is a great thing for PUs, since it means that Portugal does a lot of your colonial work for you while you can concern yourself with Europe.
But at the same time it curbs your immediate expansion because you don't have cores right away. I suppose you could play under over-extension, but that would be too micro-heavy.

I wonder what is a quickest WC. 8-10 hours?
 

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But at the same time it curbs your immediate expansion because you don't have cores right away. I suppose you could play under over-extension, but that would be too micro-heavy.

I wonder what is a quickest WC. 8-10 hours?
But if you are playing as Castille and let Portugal colonize they are same culture group and you do get cores.