I want a A0 size world map with the collectors edition to put it in one of the wall of my (war) room 
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I hope for a good old fashion cd-rom with manual I can buy in store.
PI, will this be possible and in which countries, normally belgium shouldn't be a problem I hope
PI, will this be possible and in which countries, normally belgium shouldn't be a problem I hope
Steam comes with bucket loads of crap. Just read the Football Manager 09/Dawn of War2/Empire:TW forums
Please make the game available via gamersgate!
Please make the game available via gamersgate!
Steam comes with bucket loads of crap. Just read the Football Manager 09/Dawn of War2/Empire:TW forums
Please make the game available via gamersgate!
It will absolutely be available via GamersGate, P'dox and GG have the same owner; the question is which other digital download methods will there be.
-Multi-player is not handled by Gamers Gate or Steam, so there is no benefit to the large amount of Steam users.
-Steam always ties your hands behind your back with DRM that makes it impossible to install your game unless you connect to it each time. Gamers Gate allows you to save the executable to your HD so you can install your DRM free game without requiring another online download.
-CDs are archaic, bulky, pieces of plastic prone to scratching, loss, and degredation. I would much rather put a copy of the executable on my HD, back-up HD, and a back up thumb drive while saving physical space.
-The developers get more money when you use Gamers Gate. Paradox games have been just about the most enjoyable, well-supported games I have ever played in my life. I would prefer to pay those who are responsible for my enjoyment. The publisher is just a useless parasite partly responsible for the $60 price tag on most games now days.
-Steam always ties your hands behind your back with DRM that makes it impossible to install your game unless you connect to it each time. Gamers Gate allows you to save the executable to your HD so you can install your DRM free game without requiring another online download.
-CDs are archaic, bulky, pieces of plastic prone to scratching, loss, and degredation. I would much rather put a copy of the executable on my HD, back-up HD, and a back up thumb drive while saving physical space.
-The developers get more money when you use Gamers Gate. Paradox games have been just about the most enjoyable, well-supported games I have ever played in my life. I would prefer to pay those who are responsible for my enjoyment. The publisher is just a useless parasite partly responsible for the $60 price tag on most games now days.
I didn't purchase HoI2: DD or Vicky off GG, but I'm seriously considering it with HoI3.
Mostly because EB Games can't guarantee they'll have it on release.
Mostly because EB Games can't guarantee they'll have it on release.
Better Idea: Pre-Order it, and get one of those plasticy maps that you can draw on with markers and erase as much as you want.I hope that Hoi3 will be available from;
1. Steam.
2. Comes with a Full Color PDF Map of the World so we can plot and plan
cheers
Wat about a simple CD/DVD in the U.A.E (Dubai to be more precise). I really wish to have a Box set of HOI3 rather than a digital copy
while I'll buy paradox game expansions online quite happily [if only because it's the only way to get them] i MUCH prefer to have a physical CD on my shelf. especially useful if the CD key applies to the downloadable version also [maybe you gotta register first? *shrugs*] in the unlikely event that the CD itself becomes unusable. [my original doomsday disk? the data layer Bubbled Off the plastic disc. i have never had anything like that happen otherwise, or even had things scratched to the point of being unusable. 'course, i then bought the nice anthology, with Armageddon, so it was all good]
i do make a point of buying my games from the local [read, other side of the city because EB screwed me over one too many times] brick and mortar stores if at all possible. it just has so many less issues.
on the subject of collectors editions [which i WILL be buying if one exists for HoI3] i did like how, in EU3, the soundtrack was bundled on a separate CD, with notes and stuff. i do believe that, until i recently came into possesion of 5 CDs worth of classical music, it was one of the most frequently used CD i own
i do like the idea of several, smaller, plastic coated maps, if a world map would be way too big. it'd be awesome. or maybe just a map only showing regions, rather than individual provinces? not quite so spectacular, but still kinda neat. i can understand the size issue though. the HoI2 anthology map? yeah, almost illegible already. and that thing is... not small.
such plastic coated maps would have interesting non-electronic wargaming potential too... but it might be expecting a bit much
another medal would just go in my 'big tin of shiny things that i never get around to looking at except when i get a new one' sadly. [it currently includes a few Boys Brigade badges, some old/foreign coins, a few bit of odd jewelery, some of which i can't even identify and some of which is plastic, a can opener/spoon, the anthology medal, and a pocket knife, from memory]
it's kinda hard to come up with something suitably awesome that's not prohibitively expensive, isn't it?
i do make a point of buying my games from the local [read, other side of the city because EB screwed me over one too many times] brick and mortar stores if at all possible. it just has so many less issues.
on the subject of collectors editions [which i WILL be buying if one exists for HoI3] i did like how, in EU3, the soundtrack was bundled on a separate CD, with notes and stuff. i do believe that, until i recently came into possesion of 5 CDs worth of classical music, it was one of the most frequently used CD i own
i do like the idea of several, smaller, plastic coated maps, if a world map would be way too big. it'd be awesome. or maybe just a map only showing regions, rather than individual provinces? not quite so spectacular, but still kinda neat. i can understand the size issue though. the HoI2 anthology map? yeah, almost illegible already. and that thing is... not small.
such plastic coated maps would have interesting non-electronic wargaming potential too... but it might be expecting a bit much
another medal would just go in my 'big tin of shiny things that i never get around to looking at except when i get a new one' sadly. [it currently includes a few Boys Brigade badges, some old/foreign coins, a few bit of odd jewelery, some of which i can't even identify and some of which is plastic, a can opener/spoon, the anthology medal, and a pocket knife, from memory
]it's kinda hard to come up with something suitably awesome that's not prohibitively expensive, isn't it?
I will buy the physical media for the sole reason that I may want to play the game at some point in the future when it is no longer available on Steam and I need to reinstall on a new computer to play it.
I still play old classics like Alpha Centauri occasionally and I doubt that game would still be available for reinstallation today if I had bought it from something like Steam 10 years ago.
I still play old classics like Alpha Centauri occasionally and I doubt that game would still be available for reinstallation today if I had bought it from something like Steam 10 years ago.
I would just like to be able to order HOI3 from South Africa and have it delivered without too many hickups! Take2, Amazon or maybe even a shop... But living in the country that can be quite challenging to find it in a shop...
I also like the physical media better. Partly because you have it and installation, re-intallation is not a problem and also because to download anything with our connection speed can be quite timely and expensive.
I also like the physical media better. Partly because you have it and installation, re-intallation is not a problem and also because to download anything with our connection speed can be quite timely and expensive.
Hey, bonus, she'd be joining in on the roleplaying fun!, bonus points if you point that out at the time.
on a serious note, an online interactive map like what was posed for Hoi2, i forget who did it off hand, would be AMAZING. And if someone did it in their free time, i don't immagine it'd be all that much effort for full time programmers.
Steam comes with bucket loads of crap. Just read the Football Manager 09/Dawn of War2/Empire:TW forums
Please make the game available via gamersgate!
Such a broad brush you paint the Steam system with! Really, three individual games do not constitute the hundreds of games you can purchase via Steam and thus issues with those three do not translate over to ALL games on Steam having issues. I've purchased over a dozen games via Steam and have had zero issues...games ranging from over a decade old Xcom2 to recent release Bioshock (which incidentally the retail version had some MAJOR issues). I concur wholeheartedly with Gamersgate carrying HOI3 and feel it will be so...however why spite your face by cutting off your nose and demand Paradox only look at one distribution method? Steam can bring millions more gamers to the fold than simply Gamersgate...
You think small my friend...there is a huge benefit to the large number of Steam users. Example: you have a wonderous device that could save millions of lives...do you advertise on Craigslist (where millions do read?) or advertise in the Beaver City Times newspaper (population zero humans 100 beavers?). The choice is fairly obvious but to be safe why not both? This makes sense for HOI3 in this case too. Heck, with Gamersgate, Steam, and a retail box presence why not also include systems like Amazon, an eBay store, and other like services? Think globally my friend...the world appreciates such an outlook.
Incorrect...Steam required Electronic Arts to make their games DRM-free if they wanted distribution via Steam. You can simply perform the download from Steam and then create a copy of the files to a DVD/CD...it requires some searching around for them, but it is not difficult.
Unfortunately for you my friend, CDs will be around for many years to come. I predict Blu-Ray DVDs will see a shorter retail/shelf life than CDs. They are versatile, they last for quite some time (degredation? I suppose so, but they last longer than hard drives...), and not everyone on these forums has access to either a back up hard drive or a thumb drive. Again, why only stop with a digital distribution - though I fully admit that the day will come when retail outlets will cease offering shelf space for games. 'Tis the best for the planet in the long run to cut back on trash.
I agree wholeheartedly and would like to point out that a game distributed via digital means could cost half what a retail box does. However, it is a necessary evil if HOI3 will see more than a few thousand purchases.
Please...please do not think so short sightedly. Some people on this forum have no retail outlet nearby and with the cost of gasoline and the harm to the environment simply driving to a computer game store does, a digital download makes better sense. Utilize both a retail presence as well as digitial distribution!
I purchased Xcom2 via Steam recently...Xcom2 was created more than 10 years ago.
So yes, old games are still available on Steam for reinstallation. The trick of course is if Steam will be around 10 years from now? Of course, one can simply copy the files on your hard drive to a more permament medium in the meantime...and too, will the computer you have 10 years from now be able to even play HOI3? I've recently had to throw out quite a lot of games, some 5 years old or so, most more that just cannot run on my newish (3 years old) system.
I prefer CD/DVD from any other way!
Shop in town/Amazon etc. I don't care, but I don't want to register anywhere just to download something!
Shop in town/Amazon etc. I don't care, but I don't want to register anywhere just to download something!