Winning over Italy as Greece

[Spelaren]

Probably not impossible, but really tricky. I have tried to take over them as early as possible by justifying on Albania as soon as i turn fascist. Naval invasions do work against Italy since their navy is rather spread out, so you can pull off one big naval invasion at least. But that's that. Mountains up north are murderous. Then the rest of their army starts getting shipped in.

 

[kettyo]

It's probably hard 1:1 but it's easy after Italy is engulfed in WW2.

 

[Spelaren]

It's probably hard 1:1 but it's easy after Italy is engulfed in WW2.

But you won't get to keep the territory since everyone fighting Italy suicides against their mountains while you singlehandedly take over Italy

 

[kettyo]

But you won't get to keep the territory since everyone fighting Italy suicides against their mountains while you singlehandedly take over Italy

It's very difficult to steal your conquests if you're not in their faction. This is the key. Otherwise they will probably steal it all

 

[squid_hills]

Two possible solutions present themselves:

1) Use the Player-led Peace Conference mod, and take what you want when they capitulate.

2) Use the Order 66 method. There's a guy on Youtube named Taureor who uses this in his videos a lot. The basic gist is: get military access to Italy. Move most of your army onto all of the VPs in Italy. Leave a few units behind to capitulate Albania. Declare on Albania and go to war. Your units in Italy should claim the VPs they are standing on, which should be enough to cause a near-immediate capitulation of Italy. Alternatively, surround Rome and starve out the rest of the Italian army. Do not justify/declare on Italy directly, as doing so will teleport your armies back to your capitol as soon as war starts. You have to declare on Albania for the exploit to work.

 

[kettyo]

@squid_hills haha in the same manner you might use console and annex ITA

 

[Vin55]

dont fight against Itlay rush the facist tree down maka alliance kill albania and bulgaria than leave faction join germany you can opt to kill them with the germans but I would kill turkey or romania is better and lookout for when france leaves the jungoslavians without a guarantee then rush them... There is a good viedeo from feedback gaming, jugo is the only change so it should still work.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

It's very difficult to steal your conquests if you're not in their faction. This is the key. Otherwise they will probably steal it all

Not difficult at all. If they make a puppet/supervised state you're screwed because they can give land to it bypassing the faction 10x modifier. As such the value of being top 2 vs anything else in terms of war score is enormous because between puppet initiation and avoiding broken chain passing between two nations other than yourself you can take more than contribution by enough that the value you get somewhat matches what you actually did. Sometimes.

 

[kettyo]

Not difficult at all. If they make a puppet/supervised state you're screwed because they can give land to it bypassing the faction 10x modifier. As such the value of being top 2 vs anything else in terms of war score is enormous because between puppet initiation and avoiding broken chain passing between two nations other than yourself you can take more than contribution by enough that the value you get somewhat matches what you actually did. Sometimes.

That's correct. Puppets are dangerous