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My PC shuts off suddenly while playing EU4(and Crusader Kings 2, with the exact same issues/timeframes), but only when playing those games. It has yet to shut off playing any other game(Starcraft 2 and Left4Dead 2, but as far as I know those aren't as stressful on the GPU/CPU), or doing anything else. I understand that this may be a hardware issue, but am at a loss as to what, specifically, is the problem.

Initially I could only open the program, start a new game, and within 5 minutes the PC would turn itself off. I tried various troubleshooting attempts(checking all connections, airflow, etc), the only significant change I did was remove a cooling fan from the system, and was able to run the game for ~35 minutes before the PC shut down(left it paused after starting a new game for 30 minutes watching the temps, and then 5 minutes after I started actively playing, the PC shut down). The only constant that I've seen, is that the PC will not shut down if it was "idling" during the game(paused with no clicking/scrolling/mouse movement of any kind). Or if I selected a window other than the program itself(the game ran unpaused for 15 minutes before I made it the "active" window and the PC turned off, again within 5 minutes).

I thought it might be a temperature issue, but my CPU never goes higher than 50C while my GPU never goes above 60C(I've been running in windowed mode to watch the temps in Open Hardware Monitor). I stress-tested my GPU and CPU(using Furmark and Prime95) and both seemed to check out fine, and I'm not overclocking either(that I know of, I don't know how to do either, so I'm not sure how to check and verify that I'm not). I've tested the RAM and the sticks seem to check out as well.

The PSU I have is brand new(literally: purchased last week), and am willing to entertain that it's defective, but I don't want to go through the warranty hassle until I'm sure it's not something else(Here's a link to the one I purchased, if it helps: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153173).

While my PC isn't new, I did recently acquire it from family because it fit the recommended requirements to play Paradox Interactive games(it just needed a PSU). I'm at a loss as to what the specific problem could be, and would appreciate any help with it, since the whole reason I "upgraded" was to play these two games, and find myself still unable to do so.

dxdiag:
Code: 
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System Information
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Time of this report: 1/1/2014, 17:51:00
       Machine name: HOME
   Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.130828-1532)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: MSI
       System Model: MS-7250
               BIOS: Default System BIOS
          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ (2 CPUs), ~2.2GHz
             Memory: 6144MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 6144MB RAM
          Page File: 2631MB used, 9653MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Sound Devices
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 Default Voice Playback: Yes
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Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

            Description: SAMSUNG-0 (NVIDIA High Definition Audio)
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 Default Voice Playback: No
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 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
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            Description: Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (2- High Definition Audio Device)
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 Default Voice Playback: No
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Sound Capture Devices
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DirectInput Devices
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Poll w/ Interrupt: No

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USB Devices
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| | Location: Port_#0002.Hub_#0001
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Gameport Devices
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PS/2 Devices
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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Total Space: 286.2 GB
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      Drive: D:
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System Devices
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     Name: NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller
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     Name: High Definition Audio Controller
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     Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
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     Name: AMD HyperTransport(tm) Configuration
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   Driver: n/a

     Name: High Definition Audio Controller
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     Name: NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller
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   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
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     Name: NVIDIA nForce PCI System Management
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DirectShow Filters
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WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMADMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
WMSpeech Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMSPDMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
MP3 Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,mp3dmod.dll,6.01.7600.16385
Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mp4sdecd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvsdecd.dll,6.01.7601.17514
WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,wmvdecod.dll,6.01.7601.18221
Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mp43decd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mpg4decd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,12.00.7601.17514
Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,12.00.7601.17514
AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
SBE2MediaTypeProfile,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder,0x005fffff,2,4,msmpeg2vdec.dll,12.00.9200.16426
AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
Closed Captions Analysis Filter,0x00200000,2,5,cca.dll,6.06.7601.17514
SBE2FileScan,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Microsoft MPEG-2 Encoder,0x00200000,2,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17835
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
VPS Decoder,0x00200000,0,0,WSTPager.ax,6.06.7601.17514
WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,12.00.7601.17514
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,6.01.7601.17514
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
iTV Data Sink,0x00600000,1,0,itvdata.dll,6.06.7601.17514
iTV Data Capture filter,0x00600000,1,1,itvdata.dll,6.06.7601.17514
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,3,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17835
Overlay Mixer2,0x00200000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17835
AVI Draw,0x00600064,9,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
RDP DShow Redirection Filter,0xffffffff,1,0,DShowRdpFilter.dll,
Microsoft MPEG-2 Audio Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
WST Pager,0x00200000,1,1,WSTPager.ax,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.06.7601.18175
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.06.7601.18175
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft AC3 Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msac3enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17835
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder,0x005fffff,1,1,msmpeg2adec.dll,6.01.7140.0000
StreamBufferSink2,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Enhanced Video Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,evr.dll,6.01.7601.17514
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00200000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.7601.17669
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

WDM Streaming Tee/Splitter Devices:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

WDM Streaming Encoder Devices:
Hauppauge WinTV 418 Encoder,0x00200000,1,2,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

Video Compressors:
WMVideo8 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvxencd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvencod.dll,6.01.7600.16385
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvsencd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Cinepak Codec by Radius,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft RLE,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft Video 1,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514

Audio Compressors:
WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMSPDMOE.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMADMOE.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

Audio Capture Sources:
Microphone (2- High Definition ,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514

PBDA CP Filters:
PBDA DTFilter,0x00600000,1,1,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528
PBDA ETFilter,0x00200000,0,0,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528
PBDA PTFilter,0x00200000,0,0,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528

Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
,0x00000000,0,0,,
HD Audio Mixed capture,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
Hauppauge WinTV 418 Video Capture,0x00200000,2,5,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
NVIDIA High Definition Audio,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
HD Audio Speaker,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
HD Audio SPDIF out,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

BDA Source Filters:
Hauppauge WinTV 418 BDA Tuner,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

BDA Network Providers:
Microsoft ATSC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft DVBC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft DVBS Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft DVBT Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514

WDM Streaming Multiplexer Devices:
Hauppauge WinTV 418 Encoder,0x00200000,1,2,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

Video Capture Sources:
Hauppauge WinTV 418 Video Capture,0x00200000,2,5,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

Multi-Instance Capable VBI Codecs:
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.7601.17514

BDA Transport Information Renderers:
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00600000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.7601.17669
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x00600000,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.7601.17514

WDM Streaming TV Tuners:
Hauppauge WinTV 418 Tuner,0x00200000,0,2,kstvtune.ax,6.01.7601.17514

WDM Streaming Crossbars:
Hauppauge WinTV 418 Crossbar,0x00200000,8,2,ksxbar.ax,6.01.7601.17514

WDM Streaming TV Audio:
Hauppauge WinTV 418 TvAudio,0x00200000,1,1,ksxbar.ax,6.01.7601.17514

BDA CP/CA Filters:
Decrypt/Tag,0x00600000,1,1,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708
Encrypt/Tag,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708
PTFilter,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708
XDS Codec,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708

WDM Streaming Communication Transforms:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

Audio Renderers:
Speakers (2- High Definition Au,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (2- High,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
DirectSound: Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (2- High Definition Audio Device),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
DirectSound: SAMSUNG-0 (NVIDIA High Definition Audio),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
DirectSound: Speakers (2- High Definition Audio Device),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
SAMSUNG-0 (NVIDIA High Definiti,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

BDA Receiver Components:
Hauppauge WinTV 418 TS Capture,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

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EVR Power Information
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Current Setting: {5C67A112-A4C9-483F-B4A7-1D473BECAFDC} (Quality) 
  Quality Flags: 2576
    Enabled:
    Force throttling
    Allow half deinterlace
    Allow scaling
    Decode Power Usage: 100
  Balanced Flags: 1424
    Enabled:
    Force throttling
    Allow batching
    Force half deinterlace
    Force scaling
    Decode Power Usage: 50
  PowerFlags: 1424
    Enabled:
    Force throttling
    Allow batching
    Force half deinterlace
    Force scaling
    Decode Power Usage: 0
 
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It reads exactly like an overheating issue, despite what you saw with the temps. PDS games push the video card harder than almost any other games of their era. Not because of detailed graphics or high resolutions, but because it offloads as much work as possible onto the video processor, to free up the main CPU to deal with the vast amount of data the game uses to model history. You might try a couple of other programs like GPU-Zand CPU-Z, or SPEEDFAN.

Except for this bit:
the only significant change I did was remove a cooling fan from the system, and was able to run the game for ~35 minutes before the PC shut down
Are you saying it ran longer with less cooling? It's hard to see how that's possible, unless that fan was faulty. Were those temps taken while or immediately after it crashed?
 
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Are you saying it ran longer with less cooling? It's hard to see how that's possible, unless that fan was faulty. Were those temps taken while or immediately after it crashed?
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I'm not sure what it means, just reporting what happened to see if I can get help with the problem... I had three fans in the case, removed the exhaust fan and flipped one of the intake fans around to make it an exhaust fan. The old exhaust fan achieved a higher rpm rate than either of the two intake fans so hot air isn't leaving the system as fast, so i suppose there is less cooling...

But yes, prior to removing the fan I couldn't get the game to run longer than 10 minutes regardless of what I tried, after removing it I managed to get the game to run for 30+ minutes. Though that could be a power management issue: All the exhaust fans were plugged into the same 12v cable on the PSU and after I removed a fan, I ended up having the remaining two plugged into different cables(though I've never seem that cause a problem before unless the PSU was faulty).

As for the temps themselves, I'm currently using Open Hardware Monitor to check temps, and I have been checking the temps in windowed mode, so I can see the GPU/CPU temps rise as the game runs. It's not exact, because I've never been looking right at the temps as the PC turns off, but within the range of 3 minutes prior the temp of the GPU was 58C and the CPU was 47C. And that was after 25 minutes of EU4 being active(but not actually doing anything during the pause of the game start).

I'll get those programs you've recommended and check the temps while playing EU4. I'll also see if I can record the temps just as the PC turns off on a phone or something, so I can get an exact temperature.
 
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You might also look into whether your power supply is up the job. This game is probably making your video card draw more power than normal.
 
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I recorded the shutdown, and the temps was 54C for the GPU, and 42C for the CPU(39 for core 1, 42 for core 2), so temperatures are within normal ranges for the system. It doesn't seem to be a temperature problem.

You might also look into whether your power supply is up the job. This game is probably making your video card draw more power than normal.
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My PSU should be up for the job of powering my PC. My Graphic Card(GeForce GT 430) is plugged into the PCI-E slot, and there are no additional power connections to it. I assume this means it's just powered by the motherboard and that it can't draw extra power from the PSU. According to the specs, it requires 300W of system power(and caps at 45W of graphics power), and my 650W PSU should cover that unless it's defective. But if it didn't cover that, It shouldn't be able to power the graphics card, or PC, at all, right?

I'm going to verify my ram works using memtest86 after posting this. Any other suggestions on what my problem might be? Or if I'm wrong about my above assumptions on the PSU/motherboard?
 
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Yes your GPU gets it's power from the motherboard, but it in turn gets it from the PSU. I'm speculating that your PSU provides enough power for you machine when the GPU is idling, but not at full blast.

I dont know of a way of testing your PSUs power output, but you could take it to a PC shop for testing.

Try this: open up the case and pull the video card out, dust it and reseat it in the slot. Dust out the whole machine while you're in there - use compressed air for this.
 
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