Will you play as the Byzantines on release?

[AHumpierRogue]

I am just curious what all of your opinions are. Will anyone be playing as the Byzantines on release? Personally, what with them basically just being a feudal realm on release I won't and instead will hold out for a Byzantine expansion(I expect that will probably be the first one they release) but does anyone think they will still give them a try anyway? Maybe you just love the Byzantines/ERE that much? Or maybe you just want to see how they handle in the beginning.

 

[Kaiserjagen]

Yeah I will. I'll probably start as some Komnenoi like in my first CK2 game.

While I look forward to future DLC that will flesh them out more, they'll still be about as differentiated as CK2 Byzies are now anyways which still makes them fun to play.

 

[Xenrek]

I probably wont; because unless your the emperor, chances are itll be a *long* time before your the "cultural head" and able to research innovations tou actually want.

Though for a second run where I just try to land as much dynasty as possible for a blood+kin legacy focus? Sure.

 

[Cyhort]

Depends on what decisions/options there are. If I can restore the Roman Empire, restore the Hellenic religion, and destroy the Christian buildings in Rome via an event the way I could in 2 then I'll probably play them as my 3rd or 4th playthrough. Even though they're usually my favorite, knowing that there's probably going to be a big Byzantine DLC/patch coming sooner rather than later makes me want to hold off a few months and see what gets announced.

 

[Vityviktor]

I always considered Byzantium (feudal and "imperial") quite boring , and I actually had more fun playing the (now absent) succesor states like Epirus, Nicaea or the Latin Empire in 1204 and 1212 start dates. It's mostly because they're an almost unstoppable ever expanding juggernaut (while it should be the opposite, specially in 1066).

I really hope the content they eventually get could be based on stability, empire management, and internal politics that can portray somehow the Byzantine court. And not "click this to restore Ancient Rome like nothing happened" things.

 

[Ezumiyr]

I've never been a big fan of the ERE in CK2, even if some of my best games started within it (like my hellenic pagan run or my orthodox -> iconoclast -> sunni -> catholic -> shia -> cathar run).
I know some people are big fans of their imperial government or like to conquer the title of emperor through schemes, but it feels way too easy. Restoring Rome or mending the schism felt tedious and grindy to me.

It would be a nice thing if they had a lot of cultural-specific elements to their "feudal" contracts at the beginning of the game, though.

I believe that the big issue with countries like the ERE in CK2 is that there's a risk to be "too big to fail", without interesting internal dynamics. There should be interesting stuff to do as the Emperor without needing to conquer the world.

 

[DreadLindwyrm]

I might, but it's not a priority.

I honestly don't like the ERE as a start in any game so far, regardless of government form.

 

[vyshan]

Possibly, but I have other games and realms I want to play first.

 

[The Shacks]

Will ignore Byzantines and Nomads till they have mechanics for them. Think i'll get back to the old 'classics' for a while with Ck3 till DLC drops. I'm thinking Norse>Norman>English as a first run, maybe some cliched HRE and Iberia playthroughs too.

 

[dragonluke]

why not

 

[Vanhal]

No, but not because their mechanics lack if this is what you mean. I just don't particularly like them, in CK2 i only ever played them when the possibility to reform the Roman Empire was implemented (or more actually, for the graeco-roman paganism).

 

[Pied-Noir]

No, not in those two start dates.

 

[rcourtri]

It could be months or years before I play them, regardless of their mechanics. Other regions interest me more.

 

[ArVass]

Won't play them until they have a special kind of government.

 

[Austregisel]

Since there is nothing interesting about ERE at the launch besides the event to reform the Roman Empire, I will first play in HRE, then I will try to go from some Stratego in ERE.

 

[Kazanov]

Ill play with them and get all the achievements like i always do <3

 

[Strangedane]

Not on the first run for sure, and definately never going to start as emperor.
I dislike starts above count, and I dislike starting blobby even more.

I'll probably play a sicilian count at some point though, as I do like a good independence war.

 

[Battlex]

I am just curious what all of your opinions are. Will anyone be playing as the Byzantines on release? Personally, what with them basically just being a feudal realm on release I won't and instead will hold out for a Byzantine expansion(I expect that will probably be the first one they release) but does anyone think they will still give them a try anyway? Maybe you just love the Byzantines/ERE that much? Or maybe you just want to see how they handle in the beginning.

Ofc, then I can see how badly implemented the game mechanics paradox chose are

 

[Razmorg]

Depends on how cool their clothing is and if I get tired of other choices but obiously they aren't the highest prio for me to play when they aren't unique yet and I've yet to turn Byzantophile.

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

It won’t be one of my first choices. I will try them though early, just to see how playing an orthodox empire and culture head feels.