Will we have seasons ?

[tompalmer]

As it appears, next Paradox games with the same engine (clausewitz) as ck2 will have a seasonal cycle

My question is, will we get this in CK2 ?

If yes, will it be moddable ? (thinking about GOT mod with irregular winters)

It would be a real pity if ck2 couldn't benefit of that feature, but I'm confident in paradox's legendary support.

 

[riknap]

we technically could make a mod dependent on the date wherein seasons give modifiers, ala Shogun 2 or similar titles....

 

[richvh]

There already is a mod giving income modifiers depending on season and climate.

 

[TheColostomyBag]

Prince and the Thane already has this as a feature. Should be relatively easy to implement.

 

[Wezqu]

Game of Thrones mod also has it but I think its currently bugged as it never effects on my income.

 

[richvh]

Its effect is on each individual province.

 

[apg]

chatnoir made the mod for it not tptt, but i hope the devs include a proper system with the ground coverings and potential 'weather display' as seen in EU4.

 

[tompalmer]

I'm sure we would all like it to be a real mechanic and not a bunch of event.

In EU4 and March of the eagles I think, we see the snow in provinces, this is wonderful I'd pay a lot for a re enhencement of ck2's engine with the latest technologies. They did such a thing for Divine wind, with a whole new map. But I'd be happy with just the season mechanic

 

[cybrxkhan]

This mod here does that: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...4-MOD-K%F6ppen-Climate-Classification-for-CK2

It's included in TPTT (which I don't use), but I use this when I'm playing vanilla, unfortunately without further modding it only works in vanilla.

 

[Wezqu]

Its effect is on each individual province.

If this was a reply to me. Yes I know, but it does not effect the income at all even if it should I checked my income every time winter came to effect in a province and no change to income. It did raise build times so that worked but cost of the buildings and tax income didn't change at all.

 

[Letar]

Hmm... don't know how difficult this would be to implement, but, in the context of the time period and overall game mechanisms, would this add much to this title?

 

[Wezqu]

Hmm... don't know how difficult this would be to implement, but, in the context of the time period and overall game mechanisms, would this add much to this title?

Not really in my opinion. If it would effect attriction it would for example make wars feel little stupid. When you have to look out if there is a harsh winter in the province so you don't lose most of your troops as moving the troops to another province can take a month. You might lose most of the troops to attriction before you even get there. This would be stupid micromanaging on my opinion and too much of that just makes the game anoying.

 

[WankoStankins]

If we add seasons then foraging needs to be added, more complex attrition, armies pillaging villages or "borrowing" things from locals. Sieges need reworking, in real life even without outside help armies would lose sieges due to disease and loss of food and had to abandon, even without the threat of attack from behind.

 

[Davisx3m]

Would be really nice to see snow fall over northern Europe

 

[chatnoir17]

If yes, will it be moddable ? (thinking about GOT mod with irregular winters)

It is moddable, but limited within some modifiers (we can't see snowing on the map) and events.
F.e. that's what I made and the mechanic is quite simple (we need only four events for changing seasons).


While the modifiers show the income change by the agricultural goods, they don't represent attritions. For the latter purpose, AI needs more intelligence.

 

[trainabled]

They really should add that as it would make attrition far more realsitic ,escpecially in winter months(think about fighting mongols in russia in the dead of winter). also seeing it snow on the map would make things far more fun to look at aesthetically

 

[tompalmer]

Indeed, snow <3

 

[Zireael]

Well, Koppen's climate mod is sitting on my drive waiting for me to pick up vanilla CK2 and stop playing AGOT...