Will tributary overlord be called in if my vassal declares independence?

[giovdb]

I'm playing as Ryukyu and one of my vassals has the support of a large nation outside of Ming's tributary sphere (Bahmanis). If my vassal declares war, and that nation joins their side, will Ming come to mine? Or am I on my own?

 

[Badesumofu]

Yes, Ming will defend you. This is why playing as a vassal of a tributary of Ming is considered one of the hardest starts in the game.

 

[giovdb]

That is such a relief. I was stressing hard core. Lol.

 

[giovdb]

I really wanted to annex that vassal though... Their L.D. is crazy high because of the support independence. Any ideas on what I could do in order to stop this? Only way I can think of is to somehow truce them...

 

[Howl]

I really wanted to annex that vassal though... Their L.D. is crazy high because of the support independence. Any ideas on what I could do in order to stop this? Only way I can think of is to somehow truce them...

Declare on whoever supports their independence. Or hope they declare on you, a lost independence war gives a massive reduction to liberty desire. It also resets any progress made on integrating them, so don't start to annex vassals that might turn on you.

 

[giovdb]

Declare on whoever supports their independence. Or hope they declare on you, a lost independence war gives a massive reduction to liberty desire. It also resets any progress made on integrating them, so don't start to annex vassals that might turn on you.

If I declare on Bahamis I would definitely lose. They want my stuff in India really bad. I guess i could hire 20K mercs and maybe beat them, but I'm far from rolling in the dough.

 

[I_am_Nemo]

Any way you could vassalize your way into a defensive war vs. Bahmanis? That'd let you call Ming in as well; you could rip Bahmanis up and kill two birds with one stone.

 

[giovdb]

Any way you could vassalize your way into a defensive war vs. Bahmanis? That'd let you call Ming in as well; you could rip Bahmanis up and kill two birds with one stone.

I looked into that last night and all minors nearby have been annexed by them or me... I'll keep my eyes open though.

 

[giovdb]

This is so dumb. I was about to annex another vassal and they allied with my rebellious vassal that's being supported by Bahmanis. WTF???? Now I can't annex any of them. What is going on with this game? This stuff never used to happen? UUURRRGGG

 

[I_am_Nemo]

They probably went over 50% LD briefly, and that was enough to allow them to ally.

 

[giovdb]

Ohhhh I just won a war against Bahmanis and solved the issue. They were fighting Bengal and Ayutthanya, WE was high, and no manpower. Of course they peaced with them when I attacked, but i was able to hit their stacks separately and siege 3 of their forts and gained warscore quickly. I was going to be happy with a white peace, but was able to take two of their forted provinces