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I am wondering if i will ever get a chance to get EU4 DLC's at 75% off. Lately I have only been seeing 66% off which is confusing me as the game is getting older so i would assume things would get cheaper and not more expensive. I know it not much off a difference but I am not rich at all.
 

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I am wondering if i will ever get a chance to get EU4 DLC's at 75% off. Lately I have only been seeing 66% off which is confusing me as the game is getting older so i would assume things would get cheaper and not more expensive. I know it not much off a difference but I am not rich at all.

Waiting for the Summer Sale is probably your best bet.
 

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Black Friday is your best bet, the day after thanksgiving. Either that, or a 'summer sale'.
 

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Waiting for the Summer Sale is probably your best bet.


Black Friday is your best bet, the day after thanksgiving. Either that, or a 'summer sale'.

I swear I have been waiting for that discount for an entire year but if you say so I will try waiting more.

They were 75% off in October. Likely again sooner or later.

But is waiting for the extra 9% off worth it?
I am an EU4 player and like all EU4 players I like stacking bonuses. Its not 6% its an extra 25% off (1-25/33) ;). For me it means the difference between 2 DLC's or 3 DLC's.
 

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I have been watching the sales for both EU4 and Ck2 the last few years. It is hit and miss as to what % they will be. Generally it takes up to a year for a dlc to be 75% off.(every now and then it is sooner, but that is more the exception than the rule) With that said, quite often the base game is 75% and the DLC being only 50% off during some sales. Ck2 is the biggest offender of this between the 2.(the chances of them all being 50% off or most/all but the latest being at a higher discount is about even) sometimes CK2's DLC takes a year+ for its DLC to go 75% off. sometimes the % off never reaches 75% for any of the dlc during a sale. Sometimes the prices for some DLC change and others dont during a sale. Last summer, some of the EU4 dlc lost some of their discount while others gained some.

it is up to you to decide if it is worth saving the few extra dollars by waiting 3-6 months. If you feel that you will play it enough over that time to be worth the few extra dollars that you didn't save on, then it may be worth getting. just keep in mind that they may not be as cheap as they are now in later sales. I do not know why. It could be paradox or it could be steam. or both. Sales are not consistent so i would not put all your hope into waiting a few more months just to be disappointed.
 

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I am an EU4 player and like all EU4 players I like stacking bonuses. Its not 6% its an extra 25% off (1-25/33) ;). For me it means the difference between 2 DLC's or 3 DLC's.
I fail to understand this math could you please explain how going from 66% to 75% discount equals 25% more discount? To me it would seem like 13-14%.
 

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I fail to understand this math could you please explain how going from 66% to 75% discount equals 25% more discount? To me it would seem like 13-14%.
If something costs $100 when it is -66%, then it originally cost about $300 and when it is -75% it costs $75. A quarter less than when -66%.
 
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a sorceress in diablo 2 could get 90% physical damage reduction with items and a shield. If the sorceress then got energy shield skill higher, it would go to 95%.

That may seem as just 5% percentage increase, but in fact going from 90% damage reduction to 95% damage reduction, means she just got an extra 50% statistical damage reduction, cause she HALVED the 10% damage she takes after increasing damage reduction from 90% to 95%..

This is why stacking bonuses is so god**** powerful in mmorpg and eu4. The more you -xx% you stack, the powerful each extra bonus gets.

This leads to the dreadful topic of comparing additive bonuses in eu4 versus multiplicative, which I really won't delve into.

Point being, @ChildeR is right. You can't compare sales reduction amount in bare coin to precentage amount you see on banners and in shops. Its the oldest trick in the book to fool customers.

if a loaf of bread costs 1 dollar, and if you get 75% reduction, you pay 0,25 dollar. If the next shop offers -66% reduction, you pay 0,33 dollar.

So how much are you paying less? 9% percentage points is the difference in percentage points , but you actually pay more then 30% total eventual price in the second shop, after the reductions.

But HEY, they *look* more stylish, and they have this nice girl in shop, and customers pay 30% more. Why do you think some shops offer permanent -xx% sale offers? Because the customer has no clue of the base price, and they can set base price at whatever they want. Some shops even sell a product at base price 100 dollar before sales, and then offer -50% sales reduction on same product... BUT THEY INCREASED BASE PRICE TO 200 dollar right before the sales! And customer thinks he gets good deal.

Completely off topic, and my math likely failed somewhere, but the difference between 75% off and 66% can amount to silly amounts of cash, if the BASE price of the product is silly high. Funny fact is, that almost NOONE seems to care what original price for a product is in a shop, until they added rules for shops to LIST that price, so customers could compare.

-75% to base price 1 dollar for a leaf of bread is nice, but -66% to base price of 1,5 dollar on exact SAME product is well, a really bad deal.

Point being, if paradox LOWERED its base price for EU4 compared to launch period, then -66% to that base price might actually mean you pay LESS base price then -75% to the price they once had AT LAUNCH until they lowered it...due to eu4 being an 'old' game.

Err, sorry for this very nerdy post.



Noone ever said statistical math was easy... God I hated the math lessons for this.

advice to @Issac1709 compare what you end up paying in the different offers, after all costs, and don't look at the reduction % amounts.
 
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a sorceress in diablo 2 could get 90% physical damage reduction with items and a shield. If the sorceress then got energy shield skill higher, it would go to 95%.

That may seem as just 5% percentage increase, but in fact going from 90% damage reduction to 95% damage reduction, means she just got an extra 50% statistical damage reduction, cause she HALVED the 10% damage she takes after increasing damage reduction from 90% to 95%..

This is why stacking bonuses is so god**** powerful in mmorpg and eu4. The more you -xx% you stack, the powerful each extra bonus gets.

This leads to the dreadful topic of comparing additive bonuses in eu4 versus multiplicative, which I really won't delve into.

Point being, @ChildeR is right. You can't compare sales reduction amount in bare coin to precentage amount you see on banners and in shops. Its the oldest trick in the book to fool customers.

if a loaf of bread costs 1 dollar, and if you get 75% reduction, you pay 0,25 dollar. If the next shop offers -66% reduction, you pay 0,33 dollar.

So how much are you paying less? 9% percentage points is the difference in percentage points , but you actually pay more then 30% total eventual price in the second shop, after the reductions.

But HEY, they *look* more stylish, and they have this nice girl in shop, and customers pay 30% more. Why do you think some shops offer permanent -xx% sale offers? Because the customer has no clue of the base price, and they can set base price at whatever they want. Some shops even sell a product at base price 100 dollar before sales, and then offer -50% sales reduction on same product... BUT THEY INCREASED BASE PRICE TO 200 dollar right before the sales! And customer thinks he gets good deal.

Completely off topic, and my math likely failed somewhere, but the difference between 75% off and 66% can amount to silly amounts of cash, if the BASE price of the product is silly high. Funny fact is, that almost NOONE seems to care what original price for a product is in a shop, until they added rules for shops to LIST that price, so customers could compare.

-75% to base price 1 dollar for a leaf of bread is nice, but -66% to base price of 1,5 dollar on exact SAME product is well, a really bad deal.

Point being, if paradox LOWERED its base price for EU4 compared to launch period, then -66% to that base price might actually mean you pay LESS base price then -75% to the price they once had AT LAUNCH until they lowered it...due to eu4 being an 'old' game.

Err, sorry for this very nerdy post.



Noone ever said statistical math was easy... God I hated the math lessons for this.

advice to @Issac1709 compare what you end up paying in the different offers, after all costs, and don't look at the reduction % amounts.

Dont worry I am also someone who likes to math a lot before spending money.

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As you can see here the prices havent changed since launch (approx HK80=US10). AoW is stil $15, WoN is still $10 and RR is still $5.
 

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isn't eu4 less pricey now then at launch?

On steam, I mean.
(sorry too lazy to check)
 

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isn't eu4 less pricey now then at launch?

On steam, I mean.
(sorry too lazy to check)
Base prices of products have not changed since launch at all. Honestly, it kinda seems pointless with all the discounts for them**.


**It would be nice to see the collection updated to include AoW too at least for the new players.