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ease down, man, Greven haven't posted anything since 3 VIII.
I hope they are working hard
I hope they are working hard
"I hope they are working hard"
I hope that to !
but noth to fast to forget put Cro TAG in game
....ay donth wonth weiting till the EUIII
I hope that to !
but noth to fast to forget put Cro TAG in game
....ay donth wonth weiting till the EUIII
My mistake there. The airport we flew into is in what is now Slovenia, but where we stayed is in Croatia.
The book I bought, printed in England, is called "Learn Serbo-Croat for Yugoslavia" or some such. How the stuff that is in the book relates to what the Serbians and Croatians actually speak, I don't know, but since you live there I'll assume you know more about it than I do
The two kingdoms united under the Hungarian king, either by the choice of the Croat nobility or by Hungarian force, in 1102. From then until 1918 kings of Hungary were also kings of Croatia, represented by a governor (ban), but Croatia kept its own parliament (Sabor) and considerable autonomy.
How on earth will you simulate two countries ruled by the same king for 800 years?
It’s not really the same thing as Carlo V or Kalmar union.
Rather I would say it is more resembling to Poland-Lithuania union, and that is one country as far EU is concerned.
Pozdrav od jednog Makedonca
Re: Re: Will there be CROATIA in EUII ?
Btw, i once knew one Macedonian girls, czy to prawda, ze bardzo latwo wam zrozumiec polski?Ja przynajmniej rozumiem, co napisales
Which will be different in EUII, though. (two countries, with special relations, and chance to merge)
Btw, i once knew one Macedonian girls, czy to prawda, ze bardzo latwo wam zrozumiec polski?Ja przynajmniej rozumiem, co napisales
Re: Re: Re: Will there be CROATIA in EUII ?
Niektórzy od ten Polski JA puszka metalowa rozumieæ.
¯yczenia
Originally posted by Maur13
Which will be different in EUII, though. (two countries, with special relations, and chance to merge)
Btw, i once knew one Macedonian girls, czy to prawda, ze bardzo latwo wam zrozumiec polski?Ja przynajmniej rozumiem, co napisales
Niektórzy od ten Polski JA puszka metalowa rozumieæ.
¯yczenia
Well ( I like numbers so ... )
1. To Heysey- Yor book is litlle aut of date hehe
2. TO Sputnik- If only Maur13 worlds come true
A litle "scenario" file adon ....
TAG = CRO
bla,bla,bla
diplomacy =
{ annex = {HUN,CRO}
status = no
posbilty = NO }
bla, bla, bla
ahhhhhh......
hmmmm and there shuld be Macedonian ,Bulgaryan and perhaps Rumunian TAG in EUII to
BOK MAKEDONAC!!! i POZDRAV POLJSKOJ
BOZE NISAM ZNAO DA RAZUMIJEM POLJSKI hehe
1. To Heysey- Yor book is litlle aut of date hehe
2. TO Sputnik- If only Maur13 worlds come true
A litle "scenario" file adon ....
TAG = CRO
bla,bla,bla
diplomacy =
{ annex = {HUN,CRO}
status = no
posbilty = NO }
bla, bla, bla
ahhhhhh......
hmmmm and there shuld be Macedonian ,Bulgaryan and perhaps Rumunian TAG in EUII to
BOK MAKEDONAC!!! i POZDRAV POLJSKOJ
BOZE NISAM ZNAO DA RAZUMIJEM POLJSKI hehe
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It could be cool to have croatia as a vassal when playing Austria....
I can make the scenario.....
Ps.should bosnia be croat????
I can make the scenario.....
Ps.should bosnia be croat????
Isn't there exactly the same thread somewhere else? Well I say the same thing on this thread as on the other.
Uh Gruli that wuld be great....
Hmm no it s noth important.
Croatia donth ned bosnia.
Butprovinces Croatia,Illyria and Istria shuld have nntional shild on it..
The making provinces is noth problem .. problem is to get all
"Monarhs" and leders.... this is problem at moment
Hmm no it s noth important.
Croatia donth ned bosnia.
Butprovinces Croatia,Illyria and Istria shuld have nntional shild on it..
The making provinces is noth problem .. problem is to get all
"Monarhs" and leders.... this is problem at moment
Yes there is becose I donth vonth PARADOX mis it..... and noth shured where to place it at frst place
Yes there is the same thing on another thread.
Would you all please keep subjects in 1 thread or it gets confusing.
I suggest, because of the title, that all Serb/Croatia posts go here and not in the other thread.
OK, if there is going to be a Croatian TAG in EU2 because they had certain independence and a parlament then Transylvania and Carniola (because they were part of Hungary too) should get their TAGs, because these territories had their own parlament too. Transylvania had the parlament of the "Three nations" (Hungarian, Szekely and German), while Carniola (Szlavonia) had a similar status as Croatia, but they were not the same. There were more peoples in Hungary: the Ruthenians, the Slovaks (Toths) and the Kuns. Let's not forget that there on the southern border there was a military "province" called Hatarorvidek that had a governer too, and was mainly populated by Serbs. They should get their TAG too.
I'm sure we can divinde the whole world into small parts. For example in Russia, Pskov and Novgorod should have their TAGs. Also there should be Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, and let's not forget that the Prussians weren't assimilated by the Germans until the 18th century.
OK, so anyway I think discussing about this is stupid. There was no nationalism during that time, the Croats or any other people were not thinking about fighting for their nationalistic plans, the comon people rebeled because of high taxes, while the Croatian nobility incorporated itself into the Hungarian nobility and felt comfortably there (one of the greatest generals, Zrinyi Miklos was also Croatian, yet he fought to liberate central Hungary from Turks).
Because EU should be a historicaly accurate game, countries that had no chance to exist should not exist. I would also like to see an independent Bulgaria or Serbia (Hrv123, Rumunija nije postojala sve do 1878, do tada su bili samo Vlasi). So OK, let's make those states, and then you'll see them devoured by the great powers in 10-20 years.
Croatia couldn't survive the Turkish attacks without Hungary. Also Hungary wouldn't survive without the Germans and Papal (monetary and diplomatic) help.
Jebote, ja ko da sam poceo da pisem knjigu ovde...
I'm sure we can divinde the whole world into small parts. For example in Russia, Pskov and Novgorod should have their TAGs. Also there should be Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, and let's not forget that the Prussians weren't assimilated by the Germans until the 18th century.
OK, so anyway I think discussing about this is stupid. There was no nationalism during that time, the Croats or any other people were not thinking about fighting for their nationalistic plans, the comon people rebeled because of high taxes, while the Croatian nobility incorporated itself into the Hungarian nobility and felt comfortably there (one of the greatest generals, Zrinyi Miklos was also Croatian, yet he fought to liberate central Hungary from Turks).
Because EU should be a historicaly accurate game, countries that had no chance to exist should not exist. I would also like to see an independent Bulgaria or Serbia (Hrv123, Rumunija nije postojala sve do 1878, do tada su bili samo Vlasi). So OK, let's make those states, and then you'll see them devoured by the great powers in 10-20 years.
Croatia couldn't survive the Turkish attacks without Hungary. Also Hungary wouldn't survive without the Germans and Papal (monetary and diplomatic) help.
Jebote, ja ko da sam poceo da pisem knjigu ovde...
The two small states that are out there (Wallachia and whateveritis) quite often survive till well into the game, so even allowing the rest of your argument, this doesn't follow
It's quite likely that almost every European province in EU2 - at least in the east, where the huge Austrian and Ottoman empires were made up of lots of small principalities - will be capable of becoming a separate state, although most of them will probably never show their head.