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They don't use BC.
 

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Its not BC, its AVE

Which is years after the forming of Rome. So it was 474 years ago that Rome was founded, odd why Carthage would use it, but more historical then BC, which hadn't been invented yet.
 

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Kasimal said:
What is the year after 474BC? 475BC? No it's not, the year after 474BC is obviously 473BC. Shame on you paradox, how could you ignore that? Fix this. :(
Hello Mickey Mouse, AUC, did you see any BC? Ab Urbe Condita, aka From The Founding of the City (the city being Rome).
 

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I want the game to be show BC then the year system that is now because its more fun to see how ur doing at the age stage compared what really happened and its difficult to compare those two.
 

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ok i got fooled by
474 BC Defeat of the Etruscans by Syracuse

shame on me :rolleyes:

but i realy don't understand why they use roman years and todays months and days and that for every country you play.
 

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Kasimal said:
i realy don't understand why they use roman years and todays months and days and that for every country you play.

Well I would imagine that it's fairly easy to understand why they use Roman years, the game is called Europa Universalis: Rome.

As for why they use todays days and months, I have no idea. Maybe that is something someone could work on in a mod, or maybe paradox would consider it for a patch.
 

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Well I would imagine that it's fairly easy to understand why they use Roman years, the game is called Europa Universalis: Rome.

It's called only because the epoch is known for Rome. Actually in the game, Rome it self sucks, Karthage is just stronger, Mazedonia has more potential, Rome will never reach the Seleucids and Egypt has other things to do than to bother about the minor country called Rome.
 

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I would actually like to see a choice in the setup between using auc and bc, in the next patch. It's not really a big deal, it's just that the auc numbers mean nothing to me (and most other people, I'd imagine), and I can't be bothered to do the math.

Another way would be to make a tooltip appear when hovering over the date, which would give you the year in bc.

Anyway, it's not a big deal (a very small one, in fact), but it would be nice.
 

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Kasimal said:
ok i got fooled by
474 BC Defeat of the Etruscans by Syracuse

shame on me :rolleyes:

but i realy don't understand why they use roman years and todays months and days and that for every country you play.

It's because our calendar is the one introduced by Julius Ceasar in 46 BC, the julian calendar (45 BC revised by Augustus and later by pope Gregor), the names of the months (Ianuarius, Februarius, Martius, Aprilis, Maius...) as well as their duration (31/30/28 days) are roman. At least after 45 BC^^ The calendar they used before was a little more complicated as it was a variant of the greek calendar, which was a calendar based on the mesopotamian moon calendar. These were not as exact as a sun calendar like the one used in ancient egypt, and they had to use many workarounds and extra days to make up for the shortcomings of their calendar.
 

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ElDuderino said:
As for why they use todays days and months, I have no idea. Maybe that is something someone could work on in a mod, or maybe paradox would consider it for a patch.
Which is easier to understand:

28 May
a.d. V Kal. Iun.
:confused:

And for bonus marks, here are three dates in April using the Roman calendar. Sort them in order from earliest to latest:

a.d. VI Id. Apr.
prid. Non. Apr.
a.d. XII Kal. Mai.

Still think you'd rather use the Roman dates instead of the modern ones? :D
 

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you're all a few months late on this argument. stop fighting windmills.
 

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Lots of people end up thinking the calendar is BC, but honestly, I don't see why. The date clearly reads 'AUC' in-game, and esides, wouldn't you notice it's not 474 BC from the size of Rome, lack of Persia, etc.?
 

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I don't know if any devs commented on this before, but I would guess they chose AUC because it is easier to calculate years forwards rather than backwards, such as when calculating age of characters or how long a truce will last, etc. (Since it is based on the EUIII engine.) If it is so, then I assume it will be changed ad kalendas graecas.
 

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Flop said:
I would actually like to see a choice in the setup between using auc and bc, in the next patch. It's not really a big deal, it's just that the auc numbers mean nothing to me (and most other people, I'd imagine), and I can't be bothered to do the math.

Another way would be to make a tooltip appear when hovering over the date, which would give you the year in bc.

Anyway, it's not a big deal (a very small one, in fact), but it would be nice.

Play the game some more and eventually you will learn the ecquivalent to BC. Suddenly you will know the AUC system and you will have some geeky knowledge to impress your friends with :p
 

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BC is still a valid instrument for us to use, even though the people of the time wouldn't.
When people discuss the Roman "timeperiod" I'm pretty sure they use the BC/AD calendar, even though they are discussing a time period wich might have had another system. Same when they discuss the Mayans for example.

I think it's minimally more immersive, if at all, at the cost of doing menial unstimulating math everytime you wanna know wich year it is, alternatively not giving a shit and just ignoring the system altogether and just playing.

I mean if we wanna learn geeky stuff make the game use roman numerals and in latin. You'll learn a dead language and numeral system :) Pretty geeky. You didn't lose 3000 men this war, you lost MMM men.
 
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L'Afrique said:
Lots of people end up thinking the calendar is BC, but honestly, I don't see why. The date clearly reads 'AUC' in-game, and esides, wouldn't you notice it's not 474 BC from the size of Rome, lack of Persia, etc.?
don't you think that those who don't know what AUC means,don't know rome size and few other things from 474 BC? btw knowing latin isn't that bad,you can play wise guy with simple 'Galia est omnis divisa in partes tres,quarum unam incolunt belgae...' etc :p