It would be if it was a matter of opinion. It is not. Try again.
Will The Republic be as good as Merchant Prince?
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I would probably picked pagans over this, but from what I've read Paradox definitely is on the right track with this DLC. I wouldn't have even attempted to add something as complex as the new Republic system, but it could potentially add a ton of life to the game.
I never played those old "Merchant Prince" games, sadly. Closest I came was The Guild 2, which was promising but ultimately bleh.
I never played those old "Merchant Prince" games, sadly. Closest I came was The Guild 2, which was promising but ultimately bleh.
I don't see how an add on for a game can be as deep as a full game focused on a single thing. Might be more fun and give you a bigger picture but it won't be able to replace a good example of the genre.
You are stupid.
Feel insulted now?
Calling people stupid or any other negative trait isn't polite. The accuracy of the statement is irrelevant to its politeness. The only time its polite to call someone stupid is when doing so would prevent them from harming themselves.
You are stupid.
Feel insulted now?
Calling people stupid or any other negative trait isn't polite. The accuracy of the statement is irrelevant to its politeness. The only time its polite to call someone stupid is when doing so would prevent them from harming themselves.
A Paradox game where you play an aspiring merchant dynasty and/or head of a company of Condotierri, with a detailed trade system, would be epic. But this add-on to CKII seems like the next best thing. The trading system is somewhat abstracted (i.e, you establish posts and routes but don't decide to sell X quantity of wool or buy Y amount of spices), but otherwise the elements all seem to be there.
I'm officially optimistic on this, and Paradox has earned back what respect they lost from me with Sunset Invasion just by attempting it.
It's not an insult if it is true, then it is a simple fact. Try to read the entire discourse again, because you do not seem to really get it. There is a difference to calling someone misinformed when they say the world is flat and to calling someone misinformed when they express political views. The first is obviously a false statement, you would have to be misinformed or stupid to think the world is flat. Most likely misinformed. Political views have no real truth value so calling someone misinformed or stupid because of that is pure intolerance on the insulting person's part. See the difference? I hope you do.
I think it opens up new playstyles myself, along with retinues, warring for gold and trade not land. Sure there is room for expansion to the concept, and if people like it who knows 
. The two DLC's compliment each other well, so whoever planned that out was smart, and I haven't said that about a DLC in my entire life. Never have I said that was an intelligent choice, fun and boring, good and bad yes often, but never intelligent.
Viking mechanics could work along similar lines, especially if they don't need titles as much.
. The two DLC's compliment each other well, so whoever planned that out was smart, and I haven't said that about a DLC in my entire life. Never have I said that was an intelligent choice, fun and boring, good and bad yes often, but never intelligent.Viking mechanics could work along similar lines
, especially if they don't need titles as much.
So... good job disproving your own argument. It's always nice when someone else does the work for you. I'll give you a hint, there is no truth value to what you said. Had you phrased it significantly differently, there might be. But as you've written it? It has no truth value at all. So please stop sounding so stupid.
Did you even look at what is being discussed here? I mean, really?
Did you ever consider the possibility that people weren't stupid or misinformed, but rather were complaining as they felt that it was too early for silly gimmicks when too much of the game is still unbalanced and unfinished ?
Even then calling them stupid is an opinion of you and still an insult.
I think for now we can close this silly case and return to the reaaaaal thing.
Do fellow Paradoxians agree ? Hopefully.
Ugh. Would you kindly drop it? It's like listening to kindergartners who skipped naptime.
Guys this needlessly off topic, shall we get back to the op discussion.
No it is not, and if that is how they thought then they would truly fall in the stupid category. I mean, if you are complaining that they did some overtime to push out some extra content while being well informed that it did not stall any other of the planned content? Yeah, damn stupid. In fact it is just plain silly.
But yeah, I'm out. This discussion is pointless. I was not insulting anyone, and you can be wrong all you like.
I played Machiavelli when it first came out, Im getting old.
This new dlc wont hold a candle to that game.
CK2 is not a trade simulator,with out detailed trade and all that goes with it,its gonna feel flat imo.
This new dlc wont hold a candle to that game.
CK2 is not a trade simulator,with out detailed trade and all that goes with it,its gonna feel flat imo.
Well "silly" i find less insulting than "stupid". So lets say it was/is silly. Fine.
On topic. I just realised there was a Merchant Prince II in 2001. Hmm, didn't receive good critics though.
It would be cool if similar mechanic where ever one has to have seat of power and it give special affect. It kinda drive nut not any counsel post give player any special affect when holding a office.
I regret never playing Merchant Prince, unfortunately from what I've seen of it, it would require adding too many mechanics to CK2 (which is not a surprise because what matters most to merchant states doesn't matter that much to the HRE or the King of France).
Still CK2: The republic looks like something I'd play.
Still CK2: The republic looks like something I'd play.
I doubt it will be as good as a game dedicated to the concept, but we will have to wait for the dev diaries to see.
i just hope this will include something like trade goods.
Because with no trade, I can't imagine, what could be difference between a trade post in Alexandria or Constantinople to trade post in random coastal province.
What will make the difference? number of holdings in the province? Level of development? Technologies?
I really hope that some real trade will be in The Republic DLC
Because with no trade, I can't imagine, what could be difference between a trade post in Alexandria or Constantinople to trade post in random coastal province.
What will make the difference? number of holdings in the province? Level of development? Technologies?
I really hope that some real trade will be in The Republic DLC
This! Altough I am sure there won't be any trade goods or trading mechanics (except for the bonus that the republic and the trade outpost holder gets), because I'm sure they would've mentioned already. Lack of proper trade mechanics has to be the biggest grievance for me in CKII.
Maybe in CKIII :/