Will the DLC about the British Isles give the player a controllable path out of Henri VI ?

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Why, I, in this weak piping time of peace,
Have no delight to pass away the time,
Unless to spy my shadow in the sun
And descant on mine own deformity.
And therefore, since I cannot prove a lover
To entertain these fair well-spoken days,
I am determined to prove a villain
And
hate the idle pleasures of these days.

(Some sort of obscure AAR wrote by a dude trying to mooch Queen Elizabeth...If you thought that General Grievous or Palpatine suffered from a black and white characterization...)

The current War of the Roses is a tad disapointing, to say the least, since it's completely out of the power of the player and is either solved by Henri VI finally doing his marital duties out of sheer luck, Margaret of Anjou, or simply waiting the event to fire and thus lose valuable conquering times.
 

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The best option for the war of the roses is to pick the side with the worst leader and then let the rebels win. The rebels will be transformed into your army. So you will get a full forcelimit of regiments.
 

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No one else think that for a British heavy DLC, some sort of control of the War of the Roses would be nice ?
I think if any more sort of depth was added, now would be the time. It’s entirely possible that they rework the event chain. But I feel that if they did it would be mentioned as a minor change near release or just included in the patch notes.
 

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I'm hoping there's some kind of Glorious Revolution disaster for England/GB. Like if your state religion is Anglican but your heir isn't. Also most of the major personal unions in this time frame are represented by one event or another but none of the English ones (Scotland, Netherlands, Hannover).
 
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I'm hoping there's some kind of Glorious Revolution disaster for England/GB. Like if your state religion is Anglican but your heir isn't. Also most of the major personal unions in this time frame are represented by one event or another but none of the English ones (Scotland, Netherlands, Hannover).

An issue there would be that the most obvious PU for England (Scotland) would be a downgrade over the far more easy and obvious approach of flat out conquering Scotland, which can be done by 1470 in two wars with minimal casualties and maybe a single rebellion to crush.