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Repr said:
collectors edition only for sale online?:(

id love a CE but i hate buying games online...i want a nice dvd case

What does the collector's edition offer that the normal version doesn't?
 

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Andrelvis said:
What does the collector's edition offer that the normal version doesn't?

Paradox Marketing said:
Besides the game of course, the Collectors Edition will include:

* A specially designed "EU:Rome bust", height 15 cm. See images in the webshop.
* A unique forum avatar (think gold!)
* Access to the "EU: Rome Collectors Edition forum" designed to give the hard core fans EU: Rome something extra. You will see a more intense developer presence, and will also be the first to receive any extra material ongoing. In addition you will also be in the fast lane to participate in regular beta testing of upcoming builds and content upgrades. This is also where polls of what to include in upcoming patches and products happen.

EU: Rome will also ship with a digital strategy guide and a giant EU: Rome
map.

Plus with the CE you get a physical-copy of the game (a DVD) and you can download it from GamersGate (so a digital copy)
 

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I don't know exactly how this was confused...but you DO get a PHYSICAL copy of the game. Like..a store box. But BETTER. lol
 

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TBH i wasnt sure either if there will be a boxed version. So this is good news as i might get a cheaper one when i buy it. Just wont buy it when it comes out as i still have to wait for MMG2/3, In nomine , a HOI Arma patch, and a CK/DV patch to be able to finally completely enjoy my other PAradox games. I tend to buy games at least a half year after release anyway because Developers seem to think the buyers are their beta testers. So half year/year later i get a finished game for a smaller price.

Exactly the way I feel and the way I will buy it also Bavaria. Just too many games these days come out of the box unfinished and flawed and buggy and full of errors to include the famous CTD's and companies think we should pay them $50 for this! I got CK/HOI in a jewel case package deal for $5.00 and I got HOI2 for $4.80 and I got EUIII for $7.00 not long ago. This is what Paradox reaps for what they sow. :mad:
 

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Snall said:
I don't know exactly how this was confused...but you DO get a PHYSICAL copy of the game. Like..a store box. But BETTER. lol


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Aye, the webshop items are sent PHYSICALLY. Only if you buy something from GamersGate you only get a digital copy.
 

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Grumpyoldman said:
Exactly the way I feel and the way I will buy it also Bavaria. Just too many games these days come out of the box unfinished and flawed and buggy and full of errors to include the famous CTD's and companies think we should pay them $50 for this! I got CK/HOI in a jewel case package deal for $5.00 and I got HOI2 for $4.80 and I got EUIII for $7.00 not long ago. This is what Paradox reaps for what they sow. :mad:
To tell ya the truth i've not had many real problems with PI games and i've bought most of them out of the gate, these days ALL games come out with problems...just the business model now as long as things are patched i'm happy.
 

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Yeah me too Snall, but I would hope for more comprehensive patch notes in some games (for example, the expansion modification notes for Heroes of Might and Magic V: Tribes of the East said there were Skill Tree changes, but didn't specify any of them, which sucked).
 

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Snall said:
To tell ya the truth i've not had many real problems with PI games and i've bought most of them out of the gate, these days ALL games come out with problems...just the business model now as long as things are patched i'm happy.

I really think Paradox is the best developer out there, their patching policy is awesome even if it has gotten worse the last 1-2 years. But i just dont understand why i should buy a game when i exactly know that i will only be able to enjoy it in all its glory 1-2 years later (including mods).
So EU III/NA was the last Paradox game i bought immidiately i mean i still wait to be able to play it for full enjoyment and this will only come with MMP.
Also was a little shocked by the state DV came out in. So i think no Rome for me until about summer 2009. Wouldnt have time , too, as i have to play MM Gold, a patched DV and HOI Anth. if Amazon should ever decide to finally send it to me.
 

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Ah, the good old days of Warcraft II and Imperialism... those days games rarely needed a patch (although we missed the extra content some patches have)
 

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I really think Paradox is the best developer out there, their patching policy is awesome even if it has gotten worse the last 1-2 years. But i just dont understand why i should buy a game when i exactly know that i will only be able to enjoy it in all its glory 1-2 years later (including mods).
So EU III/NA was the last Paradox game i bought immidiately i mean i still wait to be able to play it for full enjoyment and this will only come with MMP.
Also was a little shocked by the state DV came out in. So i think no Rome for me until about summer 2009. Wouldnt have time , too, as i have to play MM Gold, a patched DV and HOI Anth. if Amazon should ever decide to finally send it to me.

When their patching policy was patch it until it's fixed and in a very fast manner I used to think the same of them. But, not anymore. They've got so many hands in the fire now they can't keep up and that just makes my experience with the games less and less fun and buying their games upon release less and less attractive.

All companies release faulty and buggy and error ridden games that is definitely a fact, but, we as consumers certainly don't have to support that upon release. Just wait out the patches and let them suffer the loss of those sales and maybe just maybe they'll get back to being what they should be and do in the first place. If they go bellyup oh well, maybe they should have thought about that when they were ripping us off out of our cold hard cash and 6 months to a year and a half before the game is fixed.
 

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Grumpyoldman said:
When their patching policy was patch it until it's fixed and in a very fast manner I used to think the same of them. But, not anymore. They've got so many hands in the fire now they can't keep up and that just makes my experience with the games less and less fun and buying their games upon release less and less attractive.

All companies release faulty and buggy and error ridden games that is definitely a fact, but, we as consumers certainly don't have to support that upon release. Just wait out the patches and let them suffer the loss of those sales and maybe just maybe they'll get back to being what they should be and do in the first place. If they go bellyup oh well, maybe they should have thought about that when they were ripping us off out of our cold hard cash and 6 months to a year and a half before the game is fixed.

yeah...except that is the business model these days...if 50-60 bucks isn't worth it to support a good game dev...well, have fun playing the consoles when they're all dust.
 

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So you are saying FIRSTi have to pay and then they develop the game..doesnt seem a godd offer to me. I am not a shareholder of the game companies i am a customer who buys their products. And i think a product should be as flawless as possible. I know developers dont like to hear the car comparison very much, but that doesnt make it less valid. I know cars have flaws too and sometimes have to be called back to the garages but at least it is hurting the companies reputation there. in games industry its common sell an unfinished product and i really dont understand why i should tolerate this. "Ohh and your brakes are coming in half a year, we will include them in the upgrade package with the leather seats in half a year for a few thousand bucks..." :rofl:
 

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Ah, the good old days of Warcraft II and Imperialism... those days games rarely needed a patch (although we missed the extra content some patches have)
Correction, those games rarely received a patch. You just learned to live with the bugs and crashes and glitches and random freezing. Or if you were lucky, you bought a magazine with the patch on its coverdisk, since downloading it wasn't really an option.
 

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StephenT said:
Correction, those games rarely received a patch. You just learned to live with the bugs and crashes and glitches and random freezing. Or if you were lucky, you bought a magazine with the patch on its coverdisk, since downloading it wasn't really an option.
Yep, ...god I wish I had a patch for Fantasy Empires, I loved that game...

Anyway games are so complex now and the variety of systems so diverse that it is pretty much impossible to fix everything before release. Or sometimes to even KNOW about the problems. If you take 3 years before you sell the game and you make XXX amount of dollars, then you take 6 years and probably don't make anything. Oh, and in the 6 years there will still be bugs when you go gold...
 

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Doomtrader said:
Polish publisher is quiet as always.
Will the game be sold in Poland and is CENEGA still Polish publisher?

Seconded. There is no info at CENEGA website about any forthcoming release... Is there any chance for polish edition?