Will Post-War Greece Get Content? (Communist Civil War after WW2)

[Mr_Dimento]

If the war is won, will there be scripted events for a Communist uprising in Greece?

If Communist already, maybe a Democratic one could occur.

This would be a very cool, engaging, and unique event for Greece.

Greek Civil War - Wikipedia

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[Dlin369]

That would be something cool to see - Greece and Yugoslavia getting some events that can turn them communist and/or start a civil war if they're occupied

 

[Fulmen]

Doubt it. There's little to no post-war content for other nations; even late-war events like XYZ Axis minor switching sides and becoming a Russian puppet mid-war don't exist where as they did in HoI2 (not sure about 3).

A scripted civil war would also require certain triggers for it to make sense in the situation of the game, which is more work. Again I doubt it, but who knows.

 

[Dlin369]

I think part of it will depend on how far along the development path it is as well as how motivated the developer is. The Devs have made some changes to the trees based off feedback in the past, so there's a chance. I don't know how the fact that a freelancer was used will impact it but there's still some hope

 

[Mr_Dimento]

I think part of it will depend on how far along the development path it is as well as how motivated the developer is. The Devs have made some changes to the trees based off feedback in the past, so there's a chance. I don't know how the fact that a freelancer was used will impact it but there's still some hope

All other Paradox games have "Late or Endgame" content like Stellaris; Fallen Empires, Institution Mechanics in EU4 and the technology tree from CK.

I would hope that such a recent conflict like Cold War and other technology would be incorporated into an already great WW2 game. Considering Cold War tensions in Europe were a direct result of WW2, the rise of the Eastern Bloc, and the rise of the People's Republic of China.

 

[Selzro]

The Greek Civil War happened because the Communists helped organize and then co-opted the resistance after Greece was occupied (as they did in other countries), and they received just enough support from the Allies to become powerful enough to want to take over the country, but not powerful enough to actually succeed in doing so; while the Soviet Union stayed out of it to avoid souring relations with the UK. There was nothing intrinsic in the Greek social or political situation that would have made such a civil war inevitable any more than there was in France, Italy, or Yugoslavia. If there were a mechanism for such civil wars to happen, I'd prefer it to be a non-nation-specific one.

 

[Ketchup & friends]

According to the DD, Bulgaria will get some nation-specific events.

Now allow to me give you one last piece of advice before saying goodbye: Choose your allies and your wars wisely when playing as Bulgaria, because if you or your faction mates aren’t doing very well in the wars, you can end up in a very delicate situation, just like the one faced by Bogdan Filov and his government in September 1944…

A generic mechanism for all countries (as @Selzro proposed) would be better, but it would be bad balance if only one country in the new DLC get such content.

 

[Reinner]

According to the DD, Bulgaria will get some nation-specific events.


A generic mechanism for all countries (as @Selzro proposed) would be better, but it would be bad balance if only one country in the new DLC get such content.

There is one main problem with this though, Bulgarian coup d'état happened during the war, the Greek civil war (third phase) happened after the war.

Looking at Bulgaria's DD your government will be switched if you will start loosing in the war, historically the Bulgarian government was overthrown when Soviet Union came knocking on their doors.

 

[DystopianAlphaOmega]

To be fair, some of the government in exile decisions increase communist support. Though admittedly it’s unlikely for this to lead to a civil war.

 

[Selzro]

According to the DD, Bulgaria will get some nation-specific events.


A generic mechanism for all countries (as @Selzro proposed) would be better, but it would be bad balance if only one country in the new DLC get such content.

The difference isn't just that the Bulgarian events happened during the war while the Greek Civil War happened after the war, as @Reinner wrote, but that the Bulgarian events happened while the Bulgarian government (and thus the player) was still in control of its country while a Greek event would require Greece to first lose the war, then a resistance movement to grow for years with Allied support but without an Allied landing in Greece; instead Italy peacing out and transferring many of its occupying forces' weapons and equipment to the Greek partisans, or some equivalent way for them to come into a large quantity of weapons they can later use in the Civil War. That's a lot of things out of the player's control that have to happen just right. There are ways to provoke a generic civil war already in the game, if you're controlling your country, but making an event chain that can only work if you become a government in exile for just Greece (without a Free France/Vichy France-like distinction) seems a bit much to me.