Will france become war leader?

[mocoman2001]

in my Italy game i want to take France down a peg. The problem is France is allied with Russia. France is also allied with Bavaria. If i declare war on Bavaria, will Bavaria lead the war bringing only France and hungry in, or will France take lead and bring in the mighty bear in the north with it. France needs to be contained, but i rather avoid conflict with both it and Russia at the same time.

 

[Red John]

in my Italy game i want to take France down a peg. The problem is France is allied with Russia. France is also allied with Bavaria. If i declare war on Bavaria, will Bavaria lead the war bringing only France and hungry in, or will France take lead and bring in the mighty bear in the north with it. France needs to be contained, but i rather avoid conflict with both it and Russia at the same time.

Judging by the size of that Bavaria, I'd say with a 99% certainty that France would become warleader.

 

[aitaituo]

Judging by the size of that Bavaria, I'd say with a 99% certainty that France would become warleader.

I'm gonna knock that up a notch to 100%.

 

[Mamluke]

Judging by the size of that Bavaria, I'd say with a 99% certainty that France would become warleader.

and since it will count as a defensive war (right?) Russia whould most likelly accept a call to arms.

camon! don´t you wan a challenge?

 

[arthurs towel]

Do what I did, find a CB that locks war leader.

As Prussian Emperor I needed to knock Austria down a peg (we had been allies 150 years, had great relations, but they broke alliance and went hostile to me. So now they need to get kicked around some, also they have 4 electors voting for them... need to fix that). Thing is they allied a ton of people. Silesia, Bosnia, Anhalt, etc (yawn), and Russia (yikes). With only Hungary and my vassals Austria is no problem, with Russia ready to sweep down my Baltic provinces? Forget that.

So I picked a CB that does double duty. Revoke Elector on Silesia. It locks leader, calls in only Austria, Bosnia, and Mantua, and lets me remove one of Austria's backers and replace with my own.

So find a CB that does the same, it really is the best solution if you want to wage a war that excludes Russia.

 

[Yxklyx]

Which ones are the ones that lock? I know of this page:

http://www.eu4wiki.com/Casus_belli

but the CBs aren't listed - only the wargoals and it's not always obvious which wargoal is part of which CB.

 

[mocoman2001]

So does any one have a list of cb that lock the them in?

 

[arthurs towel]

Well if you are Emperor, then Revoke Elector does.
Any with take capitol usually do, so things like force PU, annex, convert religion, and change government type. Since Bavaria isn't likely an elector, probably monarchy (like you likely are), and you aren't likely from same dynasty your options are more limited. You can hope and try for an annex mission, but your best bet might be religion. If none apply you need to find a way to get one of these. Perhaps if you became a republic? Protestant? Otherwise find a way to get into a war with France (or Russia) that doesn't involve Russia (or France), so you can get a truce with them and attack Bavaria then.

But yeah options for no change war leader are tight.

 

[mocoman2001]

Well if you are Emperor, then Revoke Elector does.
Any with take capitol usually do, so things like force PU, annex, convert religion, and change government type. Since Bavaria isn't likely an elector, probably monarchy (like you likely are), and you aren't likely from same dynasty your options are more limited. You can hope and try for an annex mission, but your best bet might be religion. If none apply you need to find a way to get one of these. Perhaps if you became a republic? Protestant? Otherwise find a way to get into a war with France (or Russia) that doesn't involve Russia (or France), so you can get a truce with them and attack Bavaria then.

But yeah options for no change war leader are tight.

What about excommunication war?

I decided to say f it and i went to war any ways. I am destroying France, and letting Poland be my Russia buffer. I also declared war on them when they where in middle of a war with Spain, so it made destroying there stacks rather ez.

 

[moyang]

Excommunication allows war leader change.