Will feudal kingdoms going elective be changed?

[Gunburned]

The overthrow faction is causing many kingdoms to go elective. This is happening too often and something needs to be done.

 

[deadhand13]

In Conclave, vassals will often join the "Increase Council Power" faction regardless of opinion. That has more to do with how much authority the council has and how much power that vassal wants the council to have. I don't know what determines the second part though.

 

[Bolachinha]

Historically elective makes sense if you start in 769, lets remember the fall of the Iberian Visigoths due to the civil war that arose following the elections. Gavelkind makes sense as well in the early middle ages. In long term medieval europe tended to go for primogeniture and the game should totally reflect it.

 

[Bolachinha]

At leats there should be a way of influence other kingdoms laws

 

[TheDungen]

The problem isn't the fact that the subjects push towards elective, but rather that the AI is very bad as managing them.

 

[Kljunas]

I kinda like it. Elective seems like something feudal vassals should try to push when they can. Can't keep your kingdom hereditary if you can't keep your vassals in check.

It might need some tweaking but I'll take every realm being elective over every realm being primo like it used to be.

 

[TheDungen]

Most countries should start Elective in 769. Even Byzantium was more Elective than anything else.

There should be a middle step, an Elective Primogeniture, maybe, showing that while still elective, the king's son is automatically considered the favorite to win.

It should work by being able to get the realm to vote on your sucessor at any point before your death.

 

[Hootieleece]

never happens for me, it use to be 40+ was to prevent them from joining, and 60 or 80 to remove them from a faction, ive had 100+ characters in factions against me

The reason 100 is the following quote:

Generally this happens either due to a favor (with Conclave) or due to a spymaster coercing them into joining a faction.

Another thing to notice is that with Conclave, Major Vassals want a seat on the Council. If council is content then they are barred from joining factions. If Council is Discontent.......the council members can create and join factions.

Councils are ALWAYS discontent at the start of a reign and I think the game starts with the councils as discontent no matter where or when you start. (the game thinks all Kings are new) It is like the old short reign modifier in vanilla in Early patches (1.00 - 1.05) that made most successions into civil wars.

 

[TheDungen]

I kinda like it. Elective seems like something feudal vassals should try to push when they can. Can't keep your kingdom hereditary if you can't keep your vassals in check.

It might need some tweaking but I'll take every realm being elective over every realm being primo like it used to be.

Yeah that was annoying as hell.