Will fallen empires change at all in Utopia?

[scaper12123]

I'm curious how, if in any way, Fallen Empires will be changing. If nothing is known, I just wonder what people are speculating. The biggest question I have is about materialist empires and ringworlds, a megastructure that will be locked behind a special ascension perk. Now, it is safe to say that any fallen empire that has a ringworld will probably have the relevant perk but my big question is: will ringworlds be the ONLY megastructure we'll see fallen empires using?

Not only that, but will fallen empires even necessarily spawn with a mega structure where applicable? What if they spawn with terriforming ascension and have every one of their worlds be gaia? (I'm kinda hoping we can terriform colonized worlds to gaia in Utopia). I'm sure there's some perks they likely won't spawn with (like species endgame probably, maybe, hopefully ;n; ) but ascension will affect how all nations play and I'm certain fallen empires will be no exception

 

[Sheriff Godwin Law]

It'll be alot more important for Synthetic Ascenders to not lose to keepers of knowledge.

 

[Mouthwash]

I just want to know if there will be hivemind fallen empires.

 

[--Yigito123--]

I have a feeling synthetic ascension will immediately awaken a Keeper of Knowledge empire and make it throw everything it's got in your general question to destroy you.

 

[Nirmara]

Not only that, but will fallen empires even necessarily spawn with a mega structure where applicable? What if they spawn with terriforming ascension and have every one of their worlds be gaia? (I'm kinda hoping we can terriform colonized worlds to gaia in Utopia). I'm sure there's some perks they likely won't spawn with (like species endgame probably, maybe, hopefully ;n; ) but ascension will affect how all nations play and I'm certain fallen empires will be no exception

You can already terraform planets into a Gaia with the Gaia creation tech (rare, late game).

I have a feeling synthetic ascension will immediately awaken a Keeper of Knowledge empire and make it throw everything it's got in your general question to destroy you.

Probably not considering the changes to FE introduced in patch 1.3 were made in order to keep FE from preventing certain playstyles.

 

[henzington]

If repairing megastructures is included it makes conquering the materialist fallen empire way better.

 

[scaper12123]

You can already terraform planets into a Gaia with the Gaia creation tech (rare, late game).

Terriform COLONIZED worlds

 

[Foefaller]

I have a feeling synthetic ascension will immediately awaken a Keeper of Knowledge empire and make it throw everything it's got in your general question to destroy you.

No, sleeping Keepers won't wake up and/or declare war on you for being synthetic.

If they *do* wake up because of something else though, then they will wardec you.

Source: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...n-for-wiz-dev-diary-63.1002660/#post-22516250

 

[Tavior]

I just want to know if there will be hivemind fallen empires.

I do want to know this as well.