Will Africans (as well as Aboriginals) have their own siege pictures?

[luanmameili[LM]]

(Since Origin focuses on Africa)

Currently they use generic ones.

 

[Victoria 3 finally]

I never even knew they were different

 

[st360]

Unpopular truth:

The Aboriginals and 80% of Africa shouldn't even be playable states.

 

[Victoria 3 finally]

Unpopular truth:

The Aboriginals and 80% of Africa shouldn't even be playable states.

Aboriginals is arguable if they should be but saying Africa wich was basically on the same level as most of the world in 1444 is laughable.

 

[st360]

Aboriginals is arguable if they should be but saying Africa wich was basically on the same level as most of the world in 1444 is laughable.

80% of the "nations" in Africa where ethnic tribes or city states that had absolutely no system of keeping 5+ provinces together without fracturing into separate "nations", let alone conquering all of Africa in 150 years and launching invasions into India.

 

[JacobiteJames]

Aboriginals is arguable

They were hunter gatherers who never expanded beyond the tribe

if they should be but saying Africa wich was basically on the same level as most of the world in 1444 is laughable.

Coastal states are important but lots of interior ones are silly, victorian lakes got added but no zulu or SA tags. If the adamans and taiwan are uncolonised at game start, why not make parts of the bengal delta be either uncolonised or owned by the primitive aboriginals that would remain in the lush jungle until the mughals cultivated it into farmlands

 

[EllisDee]

80% of the "nations" in Africa where ethnic tribes or city states that had absolutely no system of keeping 5+ provinces together without fracturing into separate "nations", let alone conquering all of Africa in 150 years and launching invasions into India.

And 80% of Europe's nations in 1444 were incapable of conquering their neighbours, let alone the continent, and yet they exist with mission trees inviting them to world conquest.
It's a game with silly mechanics. I can fart out cannons at the turn of the 16th century and march them halfway through another country to sit on their capital.
Reality enters the equation at "setting the stage", and then immediately departs...

 

[Junuxx]

Unpopular truth:

The Aboriginals and 80% of Africa shouldn't even be playable states.

*Popular truth

 

[st360]

And 80% of Europe's nations in 1444 were incapable of conquering their neighbours, let alone the continent, and yet they exist with mission trees inviting them to world conquest.
It's a game with silly mechanics. I can fart out cannons at the turn of the 16th century and march them halfway through another country to sit on their capital.
Reality enters the equation at "setting the stage", and then immediately departs...

Which nation in 1444 Europe lacked the governing capacity to rule 100 provinces?

 

[jonjowett]

Which nation in 1444 Europe lacked the governing capacity to rule 100 provinces?

I assume you mean "governing capacity" in an informal sense - ie. ability to administer a very large area, rather than having N Governing Capacity.

In that case, my answer is: All of them, except possibly the Ottomans.

(The Ottomans had a large empire in 1444; and their 1444 administrative system was handling it pretty well; and they hit 100 EU4 provinces shortly after game start; and I'm not aware of any major administrative reforms in that period; so it's possible they could have coped with a very large empire even in 1444. Every other large country in Europe in 1444 was VERY feudal, which made it infeasible to govern a very large empire.)

 

[nyetflix]

Aboriginals is arguable if they should be but saying Africa wich was basically on the same level as most of the world in 1444 is laughable.

It's the opposite. Aboriginals don't make sense as countries (although I'm personally ok with it because it makes the area interesting), but Africans are underappreciated. Why does everybody like to talk about how primitive Africa was without knowing African history well?

 

[Ivashanko]

Aboriginals is arguable if they should be but saying Africa wich was basically on the same level as most of the world in 1444 is laughable.

Africa is a large continent. There are parts of it that were quite well developed: north Africa, Mali and the area around it, Ethiopia, Kongo, etc.

There were also areas with limited development.

But that doesn't really matter. EU4 is not a realistic game and shouldn't strive for perfect historical accuracy.

 

[santali]

I mean... You could imagine an African fortress, sure. But what the hell an Aboriginal fortress would even look like?

 

[luanmameili[LM]]

I mean... You could imagine an African fortress, sure. But what the hell an Aboriginal fortress would even look like?

Well, Aboriginals use africangfx as second_graphical_culture , at least...


By the way there are pictures you will see when sieging a Polynesian province, with and without fortress:

Native American province:

 

[Restless Native]

I never even knew they were different

This. I’ve never even looked at the siege pictures.