Why won't the council agree?

[Thrake]

I fabricated a claim. I gained a favor from my liege, requested council support from 3 other council members (in a duchy-level council so we're 4 against 2; I thought in 3v3 the liege would break the tie) and when I try to have my liege press my claim the button is greyed out and the tooltip says that the council won't agree.

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Then, I waited a few months to pass by to see if the AI would refresh and allow councilors to vote yes and before something change, my liege declared war for my claim on its own initiative... That's nice but next time I feel like throwing a few thousands coins for a county, I wouldn't mind for it to work (or to know how to make it work). Though I guess that my liege would not have declared war without the agreement of the council so that certainly helped to bribe councilors.

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So if anybody has an idea of what happened, I would certainly like to know.

 

[Whizzer]

Sounds to me that you bribed the wrong council. It's your council that disagrees with the war declaration, not your lieges. You generally bribe your lieges council to change laws, or keep someone else from changing a law.

 

[Thrake]

Sounds to me that you bribed the wrong council. It's your council that disagrees with the war declaration, not your lieges. You generally bribe your lieges council to change laws, or keep someone else from changing a law.

I am petitioning my liege to go to war over my claim; I take it that it is his council that must aprove the war declaration (so that he does not take tyrany in the process and probably to force to play the political game too). Either way, I made another attempt, again 3 bribed councilors for my liege and my whole council supporting me and the result is the same with a greyed out button and tooltip stating that the council does not agree.

 

[atraphoenix]

If you are on the point of snowballing many say different but my best point is 50k army 100 monthly gold income; go absolute rule +2 holding is more valuable than 5 years of realm peace. The other 5 years your vassals already are busy cutting each other's throat. Thanks to imperial goverment you can rectract vassals and revoke duchies without tyranny from your powerful vassals.

As caligula said "Let them hate you so long as they fear you." Just keep that revoked vassal under your vassal and never keep a courtier that has a negative opinion of you and has high intrique (esp spymaster must have +50 relation points with you. Although my wife loves killing my spymasters with her 20 intrique till I pressed her claim and made her my spymaster +100 bonus for that )

If you are not king or duke you should have no problem on going absolute rule as barons are peaceful but plotty vassals.