Why Start in 1444?

[SonofWinter]

Brandenburg has Prussian NIs as a baseline. And in my games since 1.7 they actually manage to grow somewhat.

How much growth do you think they would do if Poland, Lithuania and Hungary are ONE? That's why the game starts after the Battle of Varna, otherwise the HRE would get gang raped, three ways, by Poland and France and Denmark. If not for the foolish King, it would have been very likely that the three could have been united. And its up shit's creek for their neighbors, including Russia and Austria.

 

[Darius I Achaemenid]

I was reading a thread about Personal Unions and came across this:



I've heard plenty before about how problematic it is that EUIV tries to cover such a massive range of times with one game, but this made me realize: In the early years of EUIV, countries were structured completely differently. It wasn't until later that "nations" became a thing.
Now, obviously, there's no one year where things changed. So, I wondered..."Why is 1444 the boundary where Crusader Kings ends and Europa Universalis begins?" There must be a reason.

Does anyone in the community know why 1444 is the earliest starting year in EUIV? What kinds of things were Paradox looking at there?

In 10 November 1444 Ottomans won battle of Varna, last official crusade. Game starts in 11 November because last crusade was over and CKII "ended". Also, game ends in 1821 because in that year Napoleon was dead and Industrial revolution was in advance. Vicky 2 is about to start

 

[Me_]

The existence of Byzantium is in fact the reason that was given by Johan (I'm not going to answer any "link or didn't happen comments) years ago when explaining why 1444 (as opposed to 1453, which was the original start of EU1-3 (vanilla for 3), and the date that the wanted to get back to).

 

[Nyrael]

That's unusual. How would a converter handle the gap?

The CK2 -> EU4 converter always converts your game to 1444, even if you played after the date. So you have to end your CK2 game on that date and convert.
EU4 officially ends in 1821, but unless you play Ironman you can continue past it. So play until 1936 and convert. Not sure how the converter acts if you convert sooner or later.

 

[TinyWiking]

No need to post in a 4(!) year old thread.