It's not like they're sentient beings willingly reproducing themselves. They're just robots. The game should just let me choose which robot model I want to assemble without any penalty.
why should I have to build inferior robot model?
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Choosing which robot model to build is possible but unfortunately equivalent to population controls, and so having the policy which allows it will displease individualists and possibly also xenophiles.
Robots also do not migrate on their own, but relocating them manually will become forbidden if you give synths citizen rights and forbid resettlement, which is another individualist ask.
Robots also do not migrate on their own, but relocating them manually will become forbidden if you give synths citizen rights and forbid resettlement, which is another individualist ask.
I agree with the OP. Robot building should be: split out automatically as it is based upon a round robin or least representation model; OR you should be able to build a single type of robot without a penalty; OR be based around the colony type (agri-worlds build harvester robots, mine worlds drillbots). In fact if you think about it, the more of a single type of robot you would build, the better you would get a building it due to specialisation, increase skills and efficiency gains.
As a compromise to those who want to have some kind of penalty for specialisation: Maybe after a long period robot production specialisation and you wish to swap production there should be a penalty to production for a period. This will simulate a change in production practices and swapping out tools, retraining staff etc.
As the way the game is at the moment, it appears to struggle with multiple types of specialised robots. There is more scope for both specialisation of manufacturing, and better management of the robot workforce.
I would also want to be able to produce robots or droids instead of synths and they not automatically upgrade all populations. This would mean you could have a greater chance of avoiding rebellion and more options are always better. Why would I want to create sentient beings to do a job when mindless automatons will do the job just as well?
As a compromise to those who want to have some kind of penalty for specialisation: Maybe after a long period robot production specialisation and you wish to swap production there should be a penalty to production for a period. This will simulate a change in production practices and swapping out tools, retraining staff etc.
As the way the game is at the moment, it appears to struggle with multiple types of specialised robots. There is more scope for both specialisation of manufacturing, and better management of the robot workforce.
I would also want to be able to produce robots or droids instead of synths and they not automatically upgrade all populations. This would mean you could have a greater chance of avoiding rebellion and more options are always better. Why would I want to create sentient beings to do a job when mindless automatons will do the job just as well?
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I don't understand. As long as you have pop controls policy enabled (who cares about those egalitarians anyway) you can choose what to build without penalty. There's -20% pop growth penalty for choosing organic pop, but robots can be chosen without it. Yeah, microing all correct robot types is pain, but, so it was before... I usually just make a planet that builds mining-bots, planet that builds agri-bots etc and then resettle those.
It would make sense not to tie robots to population controls, tho, since it's not really the same thing.
It would make sense not to tie robots to population controls, tho, since it's not really the same thing.
What you're saying is basically that if someone on Earth ever researches sentient AI, my Fridge should immediately gain Robot Rights and become sentient, and be free to walk out of my house.
Otherwise I will be persecuted as xenophobe. 
For the record if you click on population growth robot pop assembled you can pick which robot type you produce. It took me a while to discover that.
Not sure if there is an penalty. It would be weird if there is (so probably is PDX way), it is not like we are stoping robo sex.
Not sure if there is an penalty. It would be weird if there is (so probably is PDX way), it is not like we are stoping robo sex.
it's considered as picking which pop to grow and receive penalty accordingly.
I only tried as a machine empire, so it might only be true for them, but the only penalty was that you lose some of the progress of the pop being built when you change which type of robot you want.
Nope, there actually isn't -20% modifier to robot growth when choosing the model. It's just organic thing.
They should at least make it so that worker and spec jobs available on the planet influence what models are being assembled. The assembly could also stop once the max housing is exceeded and instead focus on repurposing current robot models to more efficient ones according to their occupied jobs but hey... Probably not gonna happen.
Yeah this is exactly what needs to happen. Just like available housing and jobs influence growth rate, types of jobs available should influence growth type (also for bio pops). Since this is a one time calculation done at the moment it needs to decide which pop to grow, I think it could be considerably more complex than it is now.
Thanks, though not entirely sure about bio pops. Procreation in stellaris societies is viewed as a kind of hobby (like in modern western human culture) instead of something of a social need. Also, the whole point of biological pops is that they are inept, selfish moro- jerks, who make stupid decisions based on their current whims no matter how bad the consequences of that will be for everyone themselves included. "The entire planet will die from starvation if there won't be any farmers? Not my problem! I always dreamed to be a clerk. Besides, I never liked eating anyway."