Why Remove Access to 1.12.9 at Steam?

[TomPorter]

I'm so disappointed with today's release. Version 1.12.9 was released on 1/30/2023. The Black Ice mod was released on 2/5/2023. PDX released 1.12.11 on 3/9/2023 and removed the 1.12.9 rollback breaking the current Black Ice mod. I just started a game with BICE and have about 40-80 hours in it. Those saves are now worthless because the mod is broken and won't function with later than 1.12.9.

I certainly would like 1.12.9 to be available again especially in light of the fact that there are many other older rollbacks still available. This problem would also have been avoidable if updating was optional instead of required.

If PDX is going to break mods and remove required versions every 1-2 months why would I ever consider modding a PDX game?

 

[CraniumMuppet]

It's a steam limitation. Only the latest version of a major version will be available.

Minor patches should still work with mods, despite the warnings

 

[Eruth]

I'm so disappointed with today's release. Version 1.12.9 was released on 1/30/2023. The Black Ice mod was released on 2/5/2023. PDX released 1.12.11 on 3/9/2023 and removed the 1.12.9 rollback breaking the current Black Ice mod. I just started a game with BICE and have about 40-80 hours in it. Those saves are now worthless because the mod is broken and won't function with later than 1.12.9.

I certainly would like 1.12.9 to be available again especially in light of the fact that there are many other older rollbacks still available. This problem would also have been avoidable if updating was optional instead of required.

If PDX is going to break mods and remove required versions every 1-2 months why would I ever consider modding a PDX game?

Most of the time the ‘’mod is out of date’ warning is just because the mod devs put the required version down to the excavator version, and nothing is actually broken. As a mod dev myself, the only thing in the patch notes that should be even remotely problematic is the removal of that one peace conference trigger

 

[The-False-Being26]

Aw man I hope this doesn't break my expert AI game, I know that mod can be sensitive. Should be fine I guess

 

[TomPorter]

Thanks for the replies. I haven't tried to play as the devs for BICE in discord have posted that the current mod will not work for the the two versions above 1.12.9.

 

[TomPorter]

It's a steam limitation. Only the latest version of a major version will be available.

Minor patches should still work with mods, despite the warnings

I'm a little confused because HOI4 versions 1.10.5 and 1.10.8 are in the current rollback/beta list.

Steam has likely caused this because they also removed the "let me choose when to update" option and likely did place some constraint I just don't think it's based on version number.

 

[eastcoastceojam]

I'm a little confused because HOI4 versions 1.10.5 and 1.10.8 are in the current rollback/beta list.

Steam has likely caused this because they also removed the "let me choose when to update" option and likely did place some constraint I just don't think it's based on version number.

I think they made an exception for 1.10.5, as that was the last patch before a bad War Support glitch that wasn't fixed until 1.11.

But other than that exception, they only keep the final version for each major patch version.

 

[TomPorter]

Thanks for the clarification

 

[CraniumMuppet]

I'm a little confused because HOI4 versions 1.10.5 and 1.10.8 are in the current rollback/beta list.

Steam has likely caused this because they also removed the "let me choose when to update" option and likely did place some constraint I just don't think it's based on version number.

There is a limit on how many BETA versions that steam allows to display.
Before when we allowed every single version to be rolled back we hit the Steam cap, which is why we needed to cut down on rollback options. Say that HoI4 continues for 10 years more, we might inevitably hit the cap again.