Why not Eden?

[Tacticus101]

It takes effort to drudge up a real world belief system that Stellaris Spiritualists actually fit. They have the opposite of a witchcraft taboo and strictly believe in some unspecified but simplistic form of dualism but don't care about who's a god and don't have any interest in dogma beyond sharing these attributes. That's not like anything that's could catch on in the next two centuries.

Spiritualist is deliberatly vague to allow people to RP different kinds of belief structures. It isnt supposed to mirror a specific religion.

 

[Highlordelliot]

Spiritualist is deliberatly vague to allow people to RP different kinds of belief structures. It isnt supposed to mirror a specific religion.

It’s not really vague. it’s based around the shroud connection which is why I avoid making empires with the spiritualist ethos. They’re pretty much locked into worshiping the swirly energy beings in there.

 

[Tacticus101]

It’s not really vague. it’s based around the shroud connection which is why I avoid making empires with the spiritualist ethos. They’re pretty much locked into worshiping the swirly energy beings in there.

Only if you go Psionic, which isnt essential or required. There are lots of other events, decisions and Civics that reference different beliefs.

Even if you go Psionic, there isnt a requirement to make a deal with a patron and most of the Shroud events have nothing to do with the 'swirly energy beings'.

 

[Ridixo]

It’s not really vague. it’s based around the shroud connection which is why I avoid making empires with the spiritualist ethos. They’re pretty much locked into worshiping the swirly energy beings in there.

Well, meanwhile you have a better time following the psychic ascension with a spiritualist ethos, you don't actually need to be spiritualist to access the shround. Psychic materialist is possible. Also even when you don't know which gods, or concepts the people pray to, except for the ones of the "Old goods" event chain.

 

[Highlordelliot]

Only if you go Psionic, which isnt essential or required. There are lots of other events, decisions and Civics that reference different beliefs.

Even if you go Psionic, there isnt a requirement to make a deal with a patron and most of the Shroud events have nothing to do with the 'swirly energy beings'.

Well, meanwhile you have a better time following the psychic ascension with a spiritualist ethos, you don't actually need to be spiritualist to access the shround. Psychic materialist is possible. Also even when you don't know which gods, or concepts the people pray to, except for the ones of the "Old goods" event chain.

It’s kind of hard to RP that when every spiritual empire that survives the first age or two takes the psionic ascension perks

 

[Tacticus101]

It’s kind of hard to RP that when every spiritual empire that survives the first age or two takes the psionic ascension perks

That doesnt change how you RP your Empire.

The concept of Spiritualist in the game, as descriped by the Ethics text, is a basic form of Dualism. Beyond that, it is up to you. You can even have mega Churches in the current game.

 

[Don_Quigleone]

I think Paradise World would actually be best.

 

[Kravoka]

Spiritualist is deliberatly vague to allow people to RP different kinds of belief structures. It isnt supposed to mirror a specific religion.

Oh it mirrors a specific religion all right.
The Stellaris one.

It’s not really vague. it’s based around the shroud connection which is why I avoid making empires with the spiritualist ethos. They’re pretty much locked into worshiping the swirly energy beings in there.

That's just taking the worst interpretation of the game available.

The concept of Spiritualist in the game, as descriped by the Ethics text, is a basic form of Dualism.

*Idealism

 

[Ezumiyr]

If you want a correct denomination for Gaia planets it would be something like "paradisiac" or "super-habitable" world. But "Gaia" has at least two pratical uses:
- it's short
- it's vague enough to fit in any ethics/logic. There's a bit of mystery (it evokes the "Gaia hypothesis", and in fact several mods that adds events will feature at least one sentient Gaia planet), but it doesn't sound as scientific as "super-habitable" either. Contrarily to "paradise", "eden" and other denominations, it doesn't imply necessarily that the planet has to be a protected garden (or a resort world of some sort) - it only suggests it has the potential to be one, because you can totally make a Gaia planet a death world.

And when it comes to spiritualists - interpreting Gaia wolrds as sacred worlds is just their way to recognize the particularity of Gaia worlds, but like I said, Gaia worlds are a bit mysterious for everyone. Materialists will probably say something like "there was statistically a chance against 5 trillions for things to be in this way, it's like the stars aligned to allow this planet to exist", while Spiritualists will think something like "it's a gift from the gods/spirits/veil/Money/whatever mystic stuff" (but not a "proof", because Stellaris' spiritualists don't seek materialist recognition).