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I Disagree.

Concerning Mechanized:
If I replace the two motorized with two 1942 mechanized I lose 10% speed (only the 1944 Mech can go the full 12kph) and the production costs increase 12%.
And what do I get for that?
A good chunk more Defense (+30%), but I dont need that. I don't defend with Tanks.
When adding Mech to a Medium Tank division I would only add the 1944 version . But they are really expensive (1rubber, 4 steel) ~5 times the cost of Motorized (in reality more, because you capture Motorized for the cost of 0)
I do that when I don't know what else to produce...

Concerning Organisation:
In my example it's full mobile warfare Germany. I get ~32 Org with two Motorized. That's enough for a offensive division.
Adding one more motorized and removing a Tank gives 5.5 more Org. But at loss of -7% Soft Attack, -11% hard attack and -11% Breakthrough.
A trade of... I go with only 30 Org, but more punch.

Mec give 20% more HP, mean 20% less MP casuatiles and equipment loss. More hardness too. Faster in rough terreain: forest, snow, mud... More piercing, more armor...
Defense is helpful when enemy counter attack. MEC is the best defense battalion. 20% less tank loss for 15-5?

The valuable use of MEC is to mix with MOT to increase threshold of armor, piercing, hardness.. that for some reason you cannot add more tank.

Now I mostly use cheap tank divisions, so I don't use MEC. Save the IC for tanks. I recommend everyone to try cheap tank division tactics. For example the template: 3 medium tank- 7 cav or MOT (whichever have higher Org), with suport ARt, support R.art, recon, eng... Make sure your armor defeat enemy infantry piercing and your piercing defeat enemy tank armor. The next step is learn how to use 50 tank divisons!
 
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I Disagree.

Concerning Mechanized:
If I replace the two motorized with two 1942 mechanized I lose 10% speed (only the 1944 Mech can go the full 12kph) and the production costs increase 12%.
And what do I get for that?
A good chunk more Defense (+30%), but I dont need that. I don't defend with Tanks.
When adding Mech to a Medium Tank division I would only add the 1944 version . But they are really expensive (1rubber, 4 steel) ~5 times the cost of Motorized (in reality more, because you capture Motorized for the cost of 0)
I do that when I don't know what else to produce...

Concerning Organisation:
In my example it's full mobile warfare Germany. I get ~32 Org with two Motorized. That's enough for a offensive division.
Adding one more motorized and removing a Tank gives 5.5 more Org. But at loss of -7% Soft Attack, -11% hard attack and -11% Breakthrough.
A trade of... I go with only 30 Org, but more punch.

As always there advantages and disadvantages, when there is the choice between two ( or more ) options.
And often you do not have a clear "scale" to measure the weight of the advantages and disadvantages.
And even if there is a clear scale, you often have different pre-conditions and different future-plans.

Could you agree, when I conclude: We both were right somehow ? ;)
 
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Could you agree, when I conclude: We both were right somehow ?

Me disagreeing, doesn't mean you aren't right... :D

To be a bit philosophic:
A debate is a form of thinking and learning. To be able to disagree with you I have to formulate my arguments. To formulate them I have to rethink them. I also have to consider your arguments and weigh them in. And my arguments are checked by others in the forum. If my thinking it is flawed someone will tell me.
If this happens once in every 10 debates, I learn a lot and get rid of misconceptions.


(And if I don't want to see that I'm wrong, I can still practice rhetoric tricks to avoid to admit it.)
 
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