Why isn't there more unified defence against Golden Horde?

[Sam L]

Not sure why but in this game Golden Horde has been ridiculously strong coming back as far as Vienna. I beat them back to the east of Poland and Hungary but now they're trying to get into Scandinavia. I've already helped beat them back twice so the Christian Kingdoms can still exist and now it is the third time. No one else is lifting a finger. Why is this? I would've thought there would be more unified resistance.

In my previous games, it hasn't been this big of a nuisance. If I played England or something, I would have no doubt that it would go all the way to the Atlantic.

 

[Count_Curtis]

Why would you want to DEFFEND against the horde?

 

[unmerged(424234)]

There was no unified resistance historically.

 

[Sam L]

Yes but it's not like they just appeared. They've been there for over a century. This is just like any non-Christian invading Christian lands. When a Muslim Caliphate jihaded on me, at least 4 other Christian realms offered to join.

 

[Faber81]

Yes but it's not like they just appeared. They've been there for over a century. This is just like any non-Christian invading Christian lands. When a Muslim Caliphate jihaded on me, at least 4 other Christian realms offered to join.

That's cause it's a religion based war, while the horde invade without religious concerns. If you are lucky actually you could just be vassalized and keep your religion.

 

[n000b]

A somewhat related issue is that when a muslim use the invasion CB against a christian, you as the player cant even offer your help since the invasion CB don't count as a religious war. When it first got implemented I thought this was just an oversight and would be fixed shortly, now more than 4 months have passed and the Invasion CB is still flawed. Example; in my current game the Fatamids have invaded italy, only the HRE (who was in a chaotic posistion) was defending. Italy is like the center of catholicism, all catholics should defend it, but the game mechanics dont allow it. But when some muslim decides to Holy War sicily or barcelona (1 Duchy!) loads of christians offer their help.........

 

[Kyoumen]

Yes but it's not like they just appeared. They've been there for over a century. This is just like any non-Christian invading Christian lands. When a Muslim Caliphate jihaded on me, at least 4 other Christian realms offered to join.

Yeah, but the latter is what's ahistorical, not the former. Europe has a remarkably bad track record for putting their differences aside against an outside threat (as opposed to small coalitions ignored by those without an immediate interest, or coalitions where various parties backstabbed the others), and by remarkably bad I mean I'm pretty sure it never happened.

That being said, I'm not arguing to take the latter scenario out of the game, if only because the unfortunate lack of any meaningful logistics in the game makes those sorts of invasions far simpler than they were in reality.