Why isn't there an AE requirement to join a coalition?

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It feels like an exploit when I have single digit AE with a country, they join a coalition, then join in a punitive war against me. This is particularly frustrating when AI does it, but I can only imagine the kind of exploits that can be used in multiplayer.

I feel like you should have to have at least 50 AE with somebody in order to join a coalition against them.
 

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I thought they'd only make or join coalitions around 30 aggressive expansion, but with this new patch I have seen nations forming or joining coalitions at 10 aggressive expansion, so I'm not sure what to tell you.

Coalitions are broken.
 

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I think coalitions factor in more than just AE. I've seen Rivals of mine never leave coalitions against me, even if they're the only one. I think attitude and relations play a big part too. If you think about it, it does make sense. Novgorod never dropped a coalition against my Muscovy because they knew that they were always going to be in danger. I don't have any specifics, but I would think having a large number of claims or cores in another's territory might make them perceive you as threatening even if you've burned off your AE.
 

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Ya coalitions are broken, plain and simple. They should be that a coalition war halfs your ae or something, so you arent spamed the damned things. Or you can individually peace out each one with a special "will not join coalition" clause so they dont just come back in 4 years. As for mp, it is an exploit. Normally player honor prevents it though.
 

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I haven't played 1.5, but it used to be 10 AE. 10. Of course the amount varies country to country based on relations, rivals, etc. but seriously... 10.

I've been as high as 40 with some nations and not seen one.