Why isn't there a chance of Rudolf Hess succeeding at making peace with the UK after the flight?
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You're asking why we can't negotiate a peace deal through clandestine channels while we can't even offer peace via diplomatic screen, right?
Hess dies in his event, so it's there to make the game more historically accurate, the Hindenburg event is more for flavour, tho...
Yeah, it makes absolutely no difference if the Hindenburg survives or not. It is strange.
I think it should give a +2% airplane research bonus as it sped up the development of (commercially) viable airplanes.
Atleast for 1 or 2 years.
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The English figure out pretty quickly that Hess was freaking insane and was not speaking on behalf of Hitler.
Prior to Hess's flight, Germany has 2 political advisors available - Hess and Martin Bormann, who together would give a total of +30% PP generation.
Removing Hess after his flight, means Germany has only 1 available, which slows down its maximum possible PP generation rate.
So now noone hires Hess and go with Borrmann from day 1?
Would be somewhat better if Borrmann was only available after Hess has undertaken his flight and maybe for a reduced cost since his ability is not as needed anymore for Germany.
Or you could do both early to get as much out of Bormann and Hess, it's an early investment that will pay off tremendously! Especially when you're going to boost the allied colonies to become fascist on non-historical modeSo now noone hires Hess and go with Borrmann from day 1?
Nope. According to Geneva convention, they'd have to repatriate him back to Germany. Not that Britons were famous for adhering to it during WW2, but still. The reason why he was 'discarded' is that Britain was simply not interested in any peace whatsoever, regardless of person trying to bring it about.
That's a good idea.
Maybe the original plan was to make Hess do his flight in case the Hindenburg survives or in case Germany has heavy fighters since in the non-Hindenburg version he flies with a heavy fighter. But since it's very unusual that Germany has heavy fighters when France falls this condition was dropped.
But even if he did the British certainly not have negotiated with him.
I know this. I only don't know what the Hindenburg event adds to this. Seemingly nothing. But probably the original plan was to have some effect.
I don't usually play Germany but if i did i'd probably hire both Bohrmann and Hess after the captain of industry for the duration of the CIC buildup phase and then dropping Hess for the war industrialist guy for the MIC buildup phase.
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I think adding it as an actual event would be fine. Maybe make the weight for making peace very low, but adjustable based on the ratio of strength between the navies and air forces. In the event of a very real danger of invasion, an offer of peace would start to look nice even to the most belligerent of people.
It would make no sense. Giving peace and the possibility to continue buildup even stronger would just make Hitler come back with an even bigger invasion soon. Not even speaking about the consequences of France falling into German sphere of influence.
Whether this was something the Führer concocted with Hess behind closed doors, which some people believe, or if Hess was just delusionally optimistic, there's not a chance in hell Churchill would've accepted peace in the position Britain was in at the time of Hess's flight. He had already rejected countless peace offers from Hitler before, and would again. As did Chamberlain's government before him.
That aside, the random silliness with the Hindenburg and Hess events irk me. I'd prefer them to always be historical or at least have a 95% chance for a historical outcome.
That aside, the random silliness with the Hindenburg and Hess events irk me. I'd prefer them to always be historical or at least have a 95% chance for a historical outcome.
That's actually a pretty good idea. I hope someone is reading these suggestions.So now noone hires Hess and go with Borrmann from day 1?