Why is the AI so one-sided in Treaty obligations?

[agathorn]

I've been trying to take Friesland into the Nederlands. Its hard. I've tried about 10 times so far and failed. Last night I was actually doing pretty good, then it all unraveled but the way it fell apart really make me quite cross with the AI.

Later in the game, when Austria took over Burgandy through the inheritance, any attempt by me to attack any other nearby nation would result in Austria defending that nation, claiming they are protected under the HRE. So I cooled my heels for a bit to just build up money and think. But then a few years later one of those same HRE nations attacked me, and then another, and then another! Friesland is also part of the HRE so my big question, and what made me upset, is why the heck did Austria not jump in when they attacked me? Its like the AI only serves its obligations to other AI and not to the players.

I had a similar, but less drastic, issue with Burgandy earlier. They Warned everyone, and according to the game UI would come in on a war against me if I attacked say Gelre, but then Gelre turns around and attacks me and Burgundy does nothing, even though Gelre had been Warned as well. In that specific case it didn't bother me because it gave me an excuse to vassalize Gelre, but still.

 

[Thrake]

Austria doesn't intervene if you're a HRE member and using a CB against another member. Warning is a bit hit and miss. If you strike at the right moment, AI doesn't bother in intervening.

 

[ChildeR]

Also, warnings only affect attacks on bordering countries. So if you didn't border Burgundy they couldn't have joined Gelre's side.

 

[Thrake]

Also, warnings only affect attacks on bordering countries. So if you didn't border Burgundy they couldn't have joined Gelre's side.

That's the other way round I believe: Guelre has to border Burgundy for it to intervene.

 

[ChildeR]

That's the other way round I believe: Guelre has to border Burgundy for it to intervene.

Depends on who is attacking who, but yeah I meant to write joined your side.

 

[agathorn]

Austria doesn't intervene if you're a HRE member and using a CB against another member.

Then how come when I go to the Declare War interface, where it shows potential allies at the bottom, Austria is always showing up as an ally of any HRE member and if I mouse over the checkmark it says, paraphrasing that the HRE will come to the assistance of attacks on HRE members.

Is it basically just a GUI bug and in fact if I actual start the war maybe Austria won't actually intercede, it just says they will?

 

[Alsn]

Then how come when I go to the Declare War interface, where it shows potential allies at the bottom, Austria is always showing up as an ally of any HRE member and if I mouse over the checkmark it says, paraphrasing that the HRE will come to the assistance of attacks on HRE members.

Is it basically just a GUI bug and in fact if I actual start the war maybe Austria won't actually intercede, it just says they will?

If you don't have a CB then the emperor get's a call to arms. In order to fight internal HRE wars with the emperor staying out of it you *must* use a CB. Just fabricate a claim and the emperor should stay out of it.

 

[agathorn]

If you don't have a CB then the emperor get's a call to arms. In order to fight internal HRE wars with the emperor staying out of it you *must* use a CB. Just fabricate a claim and the emperor should stay out of it.

Ok I was using that screen as a quick way to see potential enemy allies, so maybe I was looking at it without a CB. That explains it all thanks!