Why is no one joining my little entente

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I had a lovely entete with Italy. =)

Has this happened multiple times in playthrougths or is it just a one off? I think the ai can refuse occasionaly.
 

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First try, but both Czech and Yugoslav refused. So I thought I might be doing something wrong... too low a world tension? (2% czech, 27% Yugoslav). Are there any conditions on the AI event or is it just a random roll?

How did you get an entente with Italy.
 

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did you go down that tree asap from the start? During the year-long hiatus while 'govt. strengthens,' before you can get your PP malus removed, get yugo on board and then do other things. Buy your oil from Romania and don't bother guaranteeing Poland - it doesn't make them join the entente, and war will come anyway via CSZ...
 

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First try, but both Czech and Yugoslav refused. So I thought I might be doing something wrong... too low a world tension? (2% czech, 27% Yugoslav). Are there any conditions on the AI event or is it just a random roll?

How did you get an entente with Italy.

Become facist France by throwing Versailles out the window (can't remember the exact name) then you can choose to form one of three factions, make your own, make one with Italy or side with Germany.
 

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did you go down that tree asap from the start? During the year-long hiatus while 'govt. strengthens,' before you can get your PP malus removed, get yugo on board and then do other things. Buy your oil from Romania and don't bother guaranteeing Poland - it doesn't make them join the entente, and war will come anyway via CSZ...
I did Czech Republic ASAP because I wanted to get strengthen govt.... also assumed joining would be automatic. Did Yugoslav after lifting "disjointed govt" a year later.

Does sound like I was just damn unlucky. Do I risk facing the Germans on my own or do I restart the game... (full time job and two young children, so every second of video game time has to be well spent).
 

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you can dismantle faction and join Allies
 

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Does sound like I was just damn unlucky. Do I risk facing the Germans on my own or do I restart the game... (full time job and two young children, so every second of video game time has to be well spent).
Having done the Little Entente, I would not suggest fighting Germany alone. Re-starting doesn't take as long once you know when you are doing.
 

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Do I risk facing the Germans on my own or do I restart the game... (full time job and two young children, so every second of video game time has to be well spent).

unfortunately the game force-feeds you friends whatever you do atm. One way or another, the world and his dog will come to your aid and saunter through your country without a by-your-leave.
 

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I did Czech Republic ASAP because I wanted to get strengthen govt.... also assumed joining would be automatic. Did Yugoslav after lifting "disjointed govt" a year later.

Does sound like I was just damn unlucky. Do I risk facing the Germans on my own or do I restart the game... (full time job and two young children, so every second of video game time has to be well spent).

Given your time constraints, I would wait and see if PDS releases the beta 1.1 patch in next day or so before starting a new game. It may fix a bunch of diplomacy and game issues.
 

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Update: Started over. Czech joined, Yugoslav didn't. Either I'm very unlucky, the chances are a bit below 90%, or there's something I am missing.

I would very much keep a string of saves for every playthrough. You can do that with Iron Man saves as well. (Go to the save directory, copy and rename.) Most of the time, you won't need most of the earlier saves and you can delete them all at the end. But from time to time, you need an achievement that you lose due to RNG which makes no sense whatsoever to repeat a whole game just to re-roll 2 dices. As well, the game does have a good number of bugs. The more you play out of the box strategies, the more they show up. You need the saves to get rid of bugs from time to time.