Why is hosting on a slow pc better than hosting on a better pc?

[Kilgarrah Sangreal]

Hey guys,

im new to Hearts of Iron 4 and wanted to start playing with my mate in multiplayer.
The problem is that from the start of the game my mate is lagging behind.
The one thing I dont understand is why hosting on a low performance pc (my mate) is working better, no lagging behind.
If i am the host (i play on a high end pc), the game is unplayable for us both. My mate if constantly lagging behind :/
Hosting requires more performance isnt't it?

Thank You for your responses.
Greetings

Anquietas

 

[KV5_Radio_Operator]

Hoi4 involves a shit ton of calculations and a shit ton of things to display at once, and as high-end PCs are able to do these faster (thus having a higher "limit") they will progress faster in-game compared to a low-end PCs. As such, low-end PCs can't catch up with the host PC and will end up out of sync. As the "limit" for low-end PCs is significantly lower than high-end PCs, high-end PCs are able to always be in-sync.

 

[Kilgarrah Sangreal]

So is it maybe possible to adjust the "Limit" of High-End PCs?

It musn't be a punishment having a High-end PC when playing with your mates :/

 

[billcorr]

It musn't be a punishment having a High-end PC when playing with your mates :/

Right.

Multiplayer is a [potentially] fun aspect of Hearts of Iron IV.

 

[KV5_Radio_Operator]

So is it maybe possible to adjust the "Limit" of High-End PCs?

It musn't be a punishment having a High-end PC when playing with your mates :/

I'm not a computer whiz, but you might be able to dedicate less RAM to the game or something which could possibly lower the limits of the host game.

 

[bitmode]

So is it maybe possible to adjust the "Limit" of High-End PCs?

You just have to lower the game speed... or is it not working even on speed 1? You obviously can't run at a speed your mate can't keep up with, especially speed 5.

Generally I think the performance impact of hosting is not very huge and hosting on the slower PC is actually better for two players.

 

[Kilgarrah Sangreal]

The confusing is that if my mate is hosting with his low-end PC, he can ramp up the speed to maximum. So literally 1 day progress per second, and I can keep up.
If i am hosting on my high-end PC he is lagging behind at speed 2 (1 hour progress per second).
This indicates that his PC can keep up with the faster game speed.

How is it possible that he can run at maximum speed (as host), while i cant do this if i am the host. this makes no sense.

 

[KV5_Radio_Operator]

The confusing is that if my mate is hosting with his low-end PC, he can ramp up the speed to maximum. So literally 1 day progress per second, and I can keep up.
If i am hosting on my high-end PC he is lagging behind at speed 2 (1 hour progress per second).
This indicates that his PC can keep up with the faster game speed.

How is it possible that he can run at maximum speed (as host), while i cant do this if i am the host. this makes no sense.

Because his PC is worse and can't progress at the same speeds that your's does when you're hosting, and as such he'll fall behind. While your PC may progress the game say 3 hours every second at max speed, his can only progress the game say 1 hours every second at max speed. All PCs can play the game at 5x Speed, but how fast 5x speed actually can run is decided by the specs of the PC.

 

[CrasherZZ]

The confusing is that if my mate is hosting with his low-end PC, he can ramp up the speed to maximum. So literally 1 day progress per second, and I can keep up.
If i am hosting on my high-end PC he is lagging behind at speed 2 (1 hour progress per second).
This indicates that his PC can keep up with the faster game speed.

How is it possible that he can run at maximum speed (as host), while i cant do this if i am the host. this makes no sense.

That makes perfect sense. The slow PC at it's maximum speed is easy to keep up with for the fast PC but there is no way for the slow PC to keep up with the fast PC when it's running at max or near max.

The slow PC is like is like an 80 year old grandfather running in a 5K. It would be easy for a 30 year-old grandchild to keep up with the grandfather even running as fast as he can, but the grandfather can't keep up with the grandchild (fast PC) running at only a medium pace.

What may be confusing is that that Speed 2 is actually not the same on all PCs, since not all PCs are the same. I run at Speed 2 often, and I can see that time is not consistent - it slows down and speeds up all the time without me changing the speed setting at all. I have a 6 year-old PC.

 

[bitmode]

What may be confusing is that that Speed 2 is actually not the same on all PCs, since not all PCs are the same. I run at Speed 2 often, and I can see that time is not consistent - it slows down and speeds up all the time without me changing the speed setting at all. I have a 6 year-old PC.

The definition of Speed 2 is the same on all PCs: two game hours per real time second. The actual speed only varies on PCs that can't handle this pace.

 

[MR2]

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[Kilgarrah Sangreal]

That makes perfect sense. The slow PC at it's maximum speed is easy to keep up with for the fast PC but there is no way for the slow PC to keep up with the fast PC when it's running at max or near max.

The slow PC is like is like an 80 year old grandfather running in a 5K. It would be easy for a 30 year-old grandchild to keep up with the grandfather even running as fast as he can, but the grandfather can't keep up with the grandchild (fast PC) running at only a medium pace.

What may be confusing is that that Speed 2 is actually not the same on all PCs, since not all PCs are the same. I run at Speed 2 often, and I can see that time is not consistent - it slows down and speeds up all the time without me changing the speed setting at all. I have a 6 year-old PC.

This would make sense ... but that arent we talking about^^

The slow pc can host at maximum speed and everthing works fine. (Even Red speed possible, Gametime: 3 days per second)
The Fast pc can only host at the lowest speed and even that speed is applying "Lagging behind". (Gametime: Only 1 Hour per second)

 

[CrasherZZ]

This would make sense ... but that arent we talking about^^

The slow pc can host at maximum speed and everthing works fine. (Even Red speed possible, Gametime: 3 days per second)
The Fast pc can only host at the lowest speed and even that speed is applying "Lagging behind". (Gametime: Only 1 Hour per second)

Yes, that appears strange but is it actually lagging or is that a just a misleading warning message? I mean is the game really slowing down on both PCs when the Fast PC is the host? Could it be a network or router issue? Are you both connected by cable to the local router or are one or both of you on wifi? Is the upload speed to the internet the same for both PCs? Perhaps the distribution of the computing load is being skewed somehow by the MP functions - putting too much load on the Fast PC? That might be a bug.

 

[Ketchup & friends]

Less lag and out of sync errors.