That "hole" in the HRE map in the nort-west annoys me. Is that historical/intentional or just an oversight of some sort?
Why is East Frisia not part of the HRE?
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historically accurate from what im aware. The east frisians were fiercely independent and repulsed numerous attacks on them over the centuries, they eventually joined the HRE I think but it took a long while to do it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Frisia I know its Wikipedia but the usual outline of things is accurate most of the time. Quite a fascinating history.
Them along with mewar are two of my favorite historic nations(mewar somehow holding out against....everyone from rana kumbha up to the pratap.)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Frisia I know its Wikipedia but the usual outline of things is accurate most of the time. Quite a fascinating history.
Them along with mewar are two of my favorite historic nations(mewar somehow holding out against....everyone from rana kumbha up to the pratap.)
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Because they weren't a member in 1444. They formally joined in 1517 after Edzard I beat a coalition of 24 German Princes who invaded East Frisia.
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This is only partly true.
The areas closest to the north sea like East-Frisia, Frisia, Hadeln, Dithmarschen and even Oldenburg were not properly integrated into to the holy Roman Empire. The Emperor was far away, but formally the land was part of "Germany", even though that term was very vague as well. The emperor regarded all of Greater Frisia part of the Empire. Frederick III had already elevated Ulrich I to Imperial count, elevating him from a mere 'hoofdeling' or chief to count. In 1498 Maximilian granted Albrecht of Saxony dominion over all Frisian lands, including east-Frisia and lands even further east. The Saxon dukes only managed the gain control over the western-parts of Frisia.
The invasion of the 24 princes was legitimized because Edzard was under the Imperial Ban, or Reichsacht. Edzard defeated them. In 1517 Charles V enfeoffed Edzard with the county, thus granting imperial recognition of his rule.
In the game, a province can be a full member of the Empire or not. In real history, membership wasn't as clear-cut.
I find it strange that Frisia is shown as part of the Empire, while east-Frisia is not. In 1444 there was no functional difference between the two. These areas were both ruled by lots of different chiefs who were feuding with each other. East-Frisia was united by marriage in 1455. The Western-parts of Frisia were only united by the Saxon dukes.
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East-Frisia should be buffed? They surely need 12 development province and unique ideas.
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and an achievement? Maybe something relating to conquering the Frisian coast? Maybe something relating to dismantling the hre or becoming emperor?
As a revolutionary or constitutional republic, eliminate monarchy from western europe
In terms of international politics, they were part of the HRE - every sovereign state agreed that the borders of the Empire encompassed them. It was the Frisians themselves who didn't agree, and the Emperor didn't have the ability to force them to agree. This resulted in a rather... unique... situation at the game's start.
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