Why Emperor title in HRE doesn't give empire rank?
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that would actually be really cool, give the country that is currently emperor the empire rank but revert it to their previous rank when they lose an election
You already get heaps of bonuses for being Emperor of the HRE, adding Empire bonuses on top would be overkill.
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And being emperor was mainly an honorific title for the HRE at this time. I believe the greatest use of imperial powers in the EUIV time period was leading up to (and during) the 30 Years' War - where the emperor got involved in the religions of the state. But realistically the emperor did not have any real power in the other states, principalities, and little fiefs. The Holy Roman Empire was not at all like other empires or powers you would normally associate with an "empire". It was very weak, fragmented, and not really united under one political system. What lasting politics and laws they had were created under the Golden Bull (1356). It was called an empire in a desperate attempt to recreate the Roman state and making it "holy" was supposed to weaken the influence of the emperors relative to the Papacy... but that didn't really work.
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I think the government rank system is a step in the right direction, but there are some weird aspects of how it was implemented. I still think having a county rank probably makes more sense than having an empire rank (at least for Europe), but oh well. This is certainly a result of the same abstractions that make it difficult to represent composite states in EU4.
if you play emperor like it is intended to play, you gonna need every bonus you can get for the HUGE amounts of responsebilities,work and trouble the emperor title comes with.
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And where this title should be written in GUI? In Country interface?
Habsburgs used Arch Duchy/King of Bohemia titles almost elusively. Land they own directly and armies they rise on theirs possessions were (most of) their power, not HRE title, foreign diplomacy known that. They did used their position in HRE to get stronger and richer.
Habsburgs used Arch Duchy/King of Bohemia titles almost elusively. Land they own directly and armies they rise on theirs possessions were (most of) their power, not HRE title, foreign diplomacy known that. They did used their position in HRE to get stronger and richer.
What about the title itself? I never actually looked so maybe its already the case, but shouldnt the HRE emperor be called EMperor (insert name here). Not government rank though, that would be insane.
Should be Kaiser, if germanic culture (at least used to be). Probably have to be Emperor rank now instead of just emperor.
Only to be demoted back to Duchy rank after someone else is elected emperor, unless you're an elector? Doesn't seem all that sensible.
Well... if you are able to stay in power maybe you truly are an Emperor?
I'll try to inherit Bohemia so I can become an elector, going to see if that helps
Actually, the Empire, especially under the Habsburgs, was experiencing a resurgence of imperial authority, which the Reformation and Rudolph's clumsy policies cut short. As an example, during the campaign against the Turks in the late 16th century, more than 80% of the taxes to cover the military frontier were covered by the princes of the Empire.*
- WILSON, P. H., The Thirty Years War. Europe's Tragedy, Belknap, 2009 (wonderful read, btw)
If you manage to get the last HRE reform off and unite it, I guarantee you will have enough development to become Emperor
The grand, global entity that is Spain . . . is a duchy.
Regardless of my personal situation here, I agree with Wiz. Nevertheless, there's a certain amount of amusement to be had here. Giving up my "general empire" to become the Holy Roman Emperor was an easy decision.
Regardless of my personal situation here, I agree with Wiz. Nevertheless, there's a certain amount of amusement to be had here. Giving up my "general empire" to become the Holy Roman Emperor was an easy decision.
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Out of interest, did you add your provinces to the Empire? And does it drop your rank down when you become emperor?
Although, im not sure you are big enough there to actually become an empire, its 1000 development isn't it?