Why does this happen?

[unmerged(103781)]

Started a new game playing Dies Irae, and as France is crumbling I call on Italy to join the war. As I take the last vp to force France to Surrender, this happens.

I made sure I took the last vp to make sure this didn't happen as I remembered sometimes it does. Yet here I am, with France all SCREWY.

The only VPS Italy had taken were in South France.

 

[comsubpac]

as far as i know italy should get all the provinces it holds when vichy fires. don't call them to arms too early or live with the consequences.

 

[Oof]

Whoever controls France after the surrender is not only determined by the amount of VP's but also by the amount of provinces controlled. The AI combines the two and the one with the highest ratio gets France! So my best guess is that the Italians controlled the bigger part of the French provinces at the time of the surrender and some VP cities like Marseille, etc.

You’re not the first one to make this mistake and Comsubpac is right: Don’t call in the Italians too early or you’ll regret it!

 

[Danmark Rising]

If I'm understanding things right the war goals in FTM should prevent this sort of thing, or at least minimize it.

 

[unmerged(103781)]

Italy definitely didn't have as many provinces or VPs as me, I only called them in as I was approaching Paris.

Anyways, is there any guides on how to edit the save file or something to fix this?

 

[Darkrenown]

It'd be kinda a pain. Look in history/provinces to find the province ids, search for that id in your save file, change controller = ITA to controller = GER, etc.

 

[TheBromgrev]

Since you're playing DI:G, you should make sure you're using the latest patch for it. If you are, then report this as a bug in the DI:G sticky at the top of the main forum so it gets looked at by the modders who made it.

 

[unmerged(261714)]

You could just reload a ealier game and not call italy to arms?

 

[kramari]

Not everyone saves the game so much

 

[unmerged(103781)]

Yea my previous save is over a year earlier, if it's too difficult to change province owner I may just restart.

 

[unmerged(47028)]

In one game I controlled all VPs and the country surrendered to my ally because they captured more provinces. I assume Italians had more provinces but in that case Vichi event should not fire.

 

[Pugmak]

I'm so gunshy about that sort of thing in the French Fight when playing as Germany, I don't even have a single ally in the axis until AFTER Vichy has fired.

 

[shepherd352]

I'm so gunshy about that sort of thing in the French Fight when playing as Germany, I don't even have a single ally in the axis until AFTER Vichy has fired.

I take allies but I am very careful about when to call them in.

And I have weekly saves activated. I only use them to save me on the very odd occasion I get a crash but they save a lot of heart-ache.

 

[Axe27]

Yeah.....

I've been playing a game in DI:G. I reoccupied the Rhineland, which resulted in France going to war with me. So, in a short three month war, I immediately penetrate the Maginot, triggering the " Continue and face Czechs in addition to Poles!" event, so I immediately opted for reparations. During the war with Poland that didn't automatically end, I beat them like a redheaded stepchild, and end up occupying Warsaw.

This, unexpectedly, triggers an Exile Poland government, even though they weren't in the Allies. So, I call them up in Diplomacy, go for the peace, and end up with Danzig and stuff, in addition to a nice week Poland.

Wait a few years, and..I annex Czechslovakia, and then the UK declares war on me, which means Italy joins in the war regardless. They quickly march to Victory (I grab Paris first though), resulting in a funky, messed up occupied territories.

I wait until the requisite date (the British war had been triggered May 1st,when I annexed Czechslovakia), and do the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. I then go to war with Poland for the Posen cores. Only something strange happens: I grab Warsaw and don't get a surrender event. Unbelieving, I look at their surrender progress to notice that Poland is still an Exile Government, despite the fact that they had been restored to Poland following the peace where they gave up Danzig, 3 years prior.

This mod is still buggy and needs some serious working out, especially the Rhineland War. While not game-breaking, it's definitively strange and weird to invade the Soviets from the Polish border, pre-WW2.

 

[Oof]

If I'm understanding things right the war goals in FTM should prevent this sort of thing, or at least minimize it.

One on hand YES. On the other NO. This thing happens quite a lot when players try to use the Italians to do the fight for them. Its not the first thread about this happening...

 

[Oof]

Italy definitely didn't have as many provinces or VPs as me, I only called them in as I was approaching Paris.

Anyways, is there any guides on how to edit the save file or something to fix this?

Did you make a count of the provinces and the VPs controlled in FRANCE for both Italy and Germany. I am pretty sure the Italians controlled more provinces then Germany did. They probably also controlled major VP cities like Marseille, Bordeaux, etc. Otherwise this wouldnt happen...

 

[Ricox]

Yeah.....

I've been playing a game in DI:G. I reoccupied the Rhineland, which resulted in France going to war with me. So, in a short three month war, I immediately penetrate the Maginot, triggering the " Continue and face Czechs in addition to Poles!" event, so I immediately opted for reparations. During the war with Poland that didn't automatically end, I beat them like a redheaded stepchild, and end up occupying Warsaw.

This, unexpectedly, triggers an Exile Poland government, even though they weren't in the Allies. So, I call them up in Diplomacy, go for the peace, and end up with Danzig and stuff, in addition to a nice week Poland.

Wait a few years, and..I annex Czechslovakia, and then the UK declares war on me, which means Italy joins in the war regardless. They quickly march to Victory (I grab Paris first though), resulting in a funky, messed up occupied territories.

I wait until the requisite date (the British war had been triggered May 1st,when I annexed Czechslovakia), and do the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. I then go to war with Poland for the Posen cores. Only something strange happens: I grab Warsaw and don't get a surrender event. Unbelieving, I look at their surrender progress to notice that Poland is still an Exile Government, despite the fact that they had been restored to Poland following the peace where they gave up Danzig, 3 years prior.

This mod is still buggy and needs some serious working out, especially the Rhineland War. While not game-breaking, it's definitively strange and weird to invade the Soviets from the Polish border, pre-WW2.

It's known problem with the engine, it can't handle more than 1 surrender from a single nation, so you have to reload the game after Poland surrenders during that case.

Since you're playing DI:G, you should make sure you're using the latest patch for it. If you are, then report this as a bug in the DI:G sticky at the top of the main forum so it gets looked at by the modders who made it.

I already reported it to Devildread and he just said to not call Italy in too early...

 

[Devildread]

I already reported it to Devildread and he just said to not call Italy in too early...

...and that it will be fixed in FTM.

 

[T.j. Arnold]

Sort of a griff I have with the series.
Like, if you invade Russia through Romania, they get all the provinces. I think it should go to the nation with more IC, or defunct to the alliance's leader, etc..

 

[Kaarle XII]

Sort of a griff I have with the series.
Like, if you invade Russia through Romania, they get all the provinces. I think it should go to the nation with more IC, or defunct to the alliance's leader, etc..

This is very annoying. I had to stop most of my Southern army group at the beginning of Barbarossa because the spoils were going to Romania and Hungary. I've no problem with Romania getting Bessarabia back, but after that, the provinces should get grey stripes and become part of the great Reich!