Why does Sweden have cores on Scania and Jämtland?

[Johan]

Did Sweden really consider these provinces a part of Sweden which never had been Swedish before?

They don't teach history in school anymore?

Denmark conquered Skåne in 1360, after it had been bought by the Swedish King Magnus Eriksson in 1332.

 

[Trin Tragula]

Christopher II pawned basically every province in Denmark due to his huge financial troubles and the Swedish king redeemed the pawn for Skåne. Technically that might not make them owners but they did controll the land for that period (and they did so by right of that agreement).

 

[Trin Tragula]

Well they really didn't But the people who had the pawn right did

 

[Trin Tragula]

It reminds me of when I read that there actually was a myth in Sweden at some point that said that Christian II was nicknamed "the Good" in Denmark and Danes think he was one of our best kings and that the Stockholm Bloodbath was the clever thing to do.

This myth does exist. As I recall it's the result of someone putting a spin on Christian II's own propaganda where he supposedly once called himself "Bondekjaer" (I can't spell in danish but I think you can understand what I'm trying to say). Obviously, even if this is true, him wanting to be known as something doesn't make it so.
I was suprised when I spoke to a Dane a few years ago (who was studying history at the university of Odense) who told me that they never teach about the Stockholm bloodbath in Danish schools (though the suprise was mostly due to the fact that it get's repeated so often in Swedish schools that it just seemed unthinkable that the Danes "themselves" wouldn't know about it).

I'm a bit suprised by the Swedish core on Jämtland myself btw.

 

[Trin Tragula]

He probably didn't pay much attention in his classes then. I learned about it through my history class back when I was 12. The problem I see though is not danes who don't know it, but the quite few swedes who tend to exaggerate the Bloodbath. I've come across swedes coming up with ridiculous numbers such as 10,000 people who were massacred... where it actually just were about 100 swedish nobles that were killed in under a week's time to cull the swedish nationalists (which failed as this just strenghtened them).

10 000? Now this I never heard. They did kill of most of the high nobility at the time. This was a great aid to the following Swedish king who probably wouldn't have been able to rule with such an ironfist had they still been alive

And this Dane was interested in both the era and history in general so I think he would've noticed if it came up (I suppose individual teachers make a lot of difference though, I remember my younger sister got to study napoleon thrice during her schooling and not the 200 years before him a single time).

I was in no way commenting on the righteousness of either the bloodbath or the occupation policies in Skåne however. I'm from that region myself after all (though from my own studies of history at the uni here it would seem both are often a bit exaggerated). I would note that the assimilation did work very well as I've never met anyone growing up in Skåne in favour of belonging to denmark (though a few seems to be in favour of independence).

 

[Trin Tragula]

The big questionmark is Jämtland actually, though that doesn't seem to be what attracts debate