Why does only Austria get the Pragmatic Sanction?

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Can anyone explain to me the reasoning behind only Austria getting the Pragmatic Sanction event? I mean, the whole story behind that IRL was that the Habsburgs didn't want to lose their rights to their posessions. The Pragmatic Sanction had in fact nothing to do, Charles VII of house Wittelsbach was voted Emperor, and the whole mess of a female ruler being considered weak led to the War of Austria Sucession, which Bavaria lost and Austria and Prussia (depite being on different sides) won.

However, in the game the a-historical pragmatic sanction can only be triggered by an Austrian Emperor, despite their being no guarantee that the Habsburg will be able to hold on to the Imperial Crown for the event to trigger (and sometimes it even passes in like 1447. or even hilariously when the Leagues form). For instance, my Prussia had pushed the borders of the HRE up north to Kurland and Gotland, an into Poland, commands the by far largest army in the HRE and has been the emperor since the Protestand League crushed the weak catholics, and has modernized the Empire into a much more efficient confederation (I was just about to pass Ewiger Landfriede when my Princess became Queen). Instead of the current Pragmatic Sanction, I would propose such an event/decision/whatever:

Conditions that must be met:

  • Is Emperor
  • Religious Leagues have been disabled (passing such a reform in a unstable Empire? good luck)
  • heir is female
  • has the support of at least 3 electors/is about to be reelected (if you control 3 electors, you're pretty secure to be reelected)
  • has passed at least 4 Imperial Reforms (to signify that the nation wields at least some authority over the HRE)
  • has passed less than 6 Imperial Reforms (Erbkaisertum makes it moot, anyway)
  • Legitimacy over 90
  • Imperial Authority over 40
Effect on accepting:
  • females can from now on become emperor
  • set Imperial Authority to 0
  • lose 2 stability
  • all HRE members with negative oppinion of the Emperor get a casus belli
  • add a -dip. Reputation modifier until the ruler dies, triggering a second modifier for the female emperor until her death

It should in any case be a harsh disruption of Imperial Authority, eating the better part of one reform, and throwing the empire in at least some internal turmoil. It may not be the best solution, but is is without doubt more realistic than a 40 province/219 BT Prussia losing emperorship to 10 BT OPM Cologne. Which shares a border with Prussia. With Prussias armies only a few provinces away.
 

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definitely agree, totally sucks losing my HRE just cause my heir was female, and then, she lived to be 80 too :( The emperorship passed to my ally and they passed the Erbkaisertum. . .
 

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Somethings should be historical some shouldn't be.

Pramagtic sanction should be available to any HRE emperor.
 

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Somethings should be historical some shouldn't be.

Pramagtic sanction should be available to any HRE emperor.

Well, they should be able to force it upon the electors. Meaning an OPM Saxony should have a hard time to pass the reform. A simple CB won't do imho. The coalition system could be used here. The weaker the emperor the more AE he gets on princes who oppose.
 

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Yeah there should totally be some little 'side' reforms, which would cost you prestige, stability and little IA.
They could be triggered anytime, not in order like main HRE reforms. One of those little reforms would be Pragmatic Sanction. If you heir is suddenly a female, you could for example pass that small reform, and you would lose some prestige, stability and 5 IA for example. IA cost is obvious, but why prestige and stability? Well in my opinion after years and years of agnatic succession, changing the law should totally lower your prestige and give you a stab hit, because you also gave a hit to traditional values of monarchism in HRE.

Austria would ofcourse gain this by event with little easier penalties to overcome. For example they wouldn't lose stability and would lose half the prestige.
 

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All nations not just HRE .......should have chance of a Pragmatic Sanction Event. Imagine a world with France with a Queen. Or you and your most hated rival have opposite sex heirs getting a Iberian Wedding like Event.

Let's bring back the sandbox a bit.........the game should explore historical plausabilities based on real history but not exactly railroaded history.
 

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The pragmatic sanction wasn't actually about the succession of the Holy Roman Empire, it only concerned the heritance of the Habsburg lands. Maria Theresa's husband was puppet HRE. The reason he got elected was because Austria was the only HRE state that could actually fulfil the military duties of the emperor. That wouldn't have been the case had the Hapsburg lands been partitioned out.
 

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The pragmatic sanction wasn't actually about the succession of the Holy Roman Empire, it only concerned the heritance of the Habsburg lands. Maria Theresa's husband was puppet HRE. The reason he got elected was because Austria was the only HRE state that could actually fulfil the military duties of the emperor. That wouldn't have been the case had the Hapsburg lands been partitioned out.

True, I totally forgot about that LOL, and I am ashamed
Still, there is no system for it ingame, and female has to become the Empress