Why does EoC AI likes so much to conquer?

[FleetingRain]

Yeah, I'm obviously complaining primarily because this makes my life harder (I'm trying The White Elephant), but I really got baffled by this.

Hkamti Long and Tamanthi had just been conquered by Ava in a defensive war in which they helped their ally Lan Na against Mong Yang. 1-2 months later, Ming declared with the Force Tributary CB. They then got Ava as a Tributary, made they return cores, and ate two provinces.

...why? This doesn't benefit them. Those provinces are wrong-culture, wrong-religion. Ming's new neighbors (Assam and Kachar) already were Tributaries. Had they let Ava keep at least one province, they'd have >33 development and therefore contribute Monarch Power as tribute. As they are, they have only 31 dev and wouldn't be able to give mana even if they wanted to. Curiously, they did the same with Mong Yang a couple decades ago but apparently returned the provinces to them (I imagine there's a Tributary event for this).

So, like, is this an oversight, or is it WAD? I'd expect the Emperor of China to avoid expanding unless it's land from a rival, or somehow strategic (CoT, Gold, high dev etc). In fact, I'd expect the Force Tributary CB not to allow to take provinces.

 

[bbqftw]

Having played EoC, I can sympathize: If you don't come peacefully your ass is getting kicked.

 

[FleetingRain]

Having played EoC, I can sympathize: If you don't come peacefully your ass is getting kicked.

In 1-2 months? Now that's being trigger-happy. That's not even the real issue to me though, but Ming taking land.

Speaking of which, I think I've found yet another bug with Ming not joining coalitions wars declared by their tributaries, but I gotta try to reproduce it later.

 

[Mrkew]

What do you mean? Ming will not join a coalition targeting one of its tributaries. They will not defend one of their tributaries targeted by a coalition provided it's declared by another tributary even if the other participants are non-tributaries. Finally, if Ming's opinion of coalition-targeted tributary country is below 0, they will not defend it against non-tributary declared coalitions either. At least I've never seen them do it.

 

[FleetingRain]

What do you mean? Ming will not join a coalition targeting one of its tributaries. They will not defend one of their tributaries targeted by a coalition provided it's declared by another tributary even if the other participants are non-tributaries. Finally, if Ming's opinion of coalition-targeted tributary country is below 0, they will not defend it against non-tributary declared coalitions either. At least I've never seen them do it.

Oh yeah, I know about those rules. Problem is, I was the non-tributary, and got attacked by a coalition of which Ming was part of. They didn't come to the coalition war however, either because it was called by one of their Tributaries, or because they had +2 opinion of me. I had no truce with Ming, so it's gotta be one of those options.