Why does "Create Public Works" only give +1 IC?

[Doctoxic]

Hi

I thought i would try the "Create Public Works" decision which costs 6000. You do get a small amount of dissent reduction but i was expecting more than only +1 extra IC - seems like the money would have been FAR better spent on the research decision, or, am i missing something

Thanks

 

[K W]

Depends on your country size. For a small country, + 1 IC together with all the modifiers for Effective IC is really useful, especially if you play til 1964 (which equals a gazillion of IC days). For larger countries who have already five tech-team slots and can't improve their research speed with IC anymore the research decision is obviously better, except when you need production more than research, e.g. as Germany.

 

[Klausewitz]

Or if you want to get to max. central planning fast:
Each installment of Public Works gets you one slider move towards central planning and +5% IC for a mere 6000$ is quite nice.

 

[K W]

Or if you want to get to max. central planning fast:
Each installment of Public Works gets you one slider move towards central planning and +5% IC for a mere 6000$ is quite nice.

True -- but it also disqualifies Public Works for any free market strategy.

 

[Doctoxic]

thanks guys

played a bit longer and got 2 more events with dissent reduction (not needed which is an annoying waste) but also percentage increase in IC - 5% or 10% i think - which was nice

 

[Fernando Torres]

True -- but it also disqualifies Public Works for any free market strategy.

Which sounds rather logical

 

[Mexbuild]

I would recommend, to add an similar descision, that adds 10% infrastructure in a random province. Would be able to take for planned and free economies.

 

[Fernando Torres]

Hem.."Invest in National Infrastructures" perhaps?

 

[Klausewitz]

That does only improve TC but not Infrastructure in any province if i am not mistaken.

 

[K W]

I would recommend, to add an similar descision, that adds 10% infrastructure in a random province. Would be able to take for planned and free economies.

Yes, please!

 

[Fernando Torres]

That does only improve TC but not Infrastructure in any province if i am not mistaken.

Oops. Good suggestion then. But I think TC is more important than adding a few infras in a random province.

 

[Miihkali]

Yes, please!

Probably slightly more infrastructure. 10% has basically no effect. +20 would do.

 

[alekseevic]

Which sounds rather logical

As I stated in another thread (yes, I'm quoting myself ), I think that such decisions aren't well balanced. You can gain the same results also for FM countries including a FM move. It's just a matter of names, for a FM country it can be "lower taxes for industry", you gain less money in the short term but industries have more money for new employees, new machines and so on. This is only to show that, at least for me, it's not necessarily logical.

That's why I never choose the CP moving option, nor with CP countries. It has no sense to me as they are now.

 

[Mexbuild]

Oops. Good suggestion then. But I think TC is more important than adding a few infras in a random province.

Yes but spend some thoughts on Russia or China. They have few provinces where you can build ic (lower than 40%) so an addition of intrastructure would make this decision for these countries more senseful. And: Countries with many 100% infrastructure profite fewer than the countries I named first. :happy:

EDIT: This is also a nice idea to show the building of the "Reichsautobahn"

 

[unmerged(103313)]

Now that the research/infrastructure decisions are no longer the easy ways to max central planning, this ought to get a little boost. Maybe even just a single extra step on central planning, not all the way to the end. Also, the new tech spots really take a lot of the incentive out of the research choice.

I think at this point spying is vastly superior to any of the economic decisions as far as money goes. They are all underweight.

 

[Duke of Awesome]

I thought taking the infrastructure decision did add infrastructure? Or is that just in Kaiserreich?

 

[Gort11]

I thought taking the infrastructure decision did add infrastructure? Or is that just in Kaiserreich?

It does, but it didn't last patch.

The "invest in research" decision also gives you blueprints, which is cool.

 

[Freezy]

Can you edit this in the event list, because I could not find it under under DB/EVENTS?

For example chance the cost to 3000 and increase IC by 5.

 

[kephas]

you may find it in :\Darkest Hour\Mods\Darkest Hour Full\db\events\generic_decisions.txt just start from line 1364 of this file or just find "Create Public Works".
BTW cost depends on how many base IC you have. If less than the cost is lower even 500 in some circumstances

Spoiler

#### Create Public Works
event = {
id = 9000021
random = no
persistent = yes
TAG = { AFG ALB ALG ANG ARA ARG ARM AST AUS AZB BEL BEN BLR BOL BOS BRA BRU BUL BUR CAL CAM CAN CGX CHC CHI CHL CMB COL CON COS CRO CSA CSX CUB CXB CYN CYP CZE DDR DEN DFR EAF ECU EGY ENG EQA EST ETH EUS FIN FLA FRA GAB GEO GER GLD GRE GUA GUI GUY HOL HON HUN ICL IDC IND INO IRE IRQ ISR ITA JAP JOR KAZ KOR KUR KYG LAO LAT LBY LEB LIT LUX MAD MAL MAN MEN MEX MLY MON MOR MOZ MTN NAM NIC NIG NOR NZL OMN OTT PAK PAL PAN PAR PER PHI POL POR PRI PRK PRU QUE RHO ROM RSI RUS SAF SAL SAR SAU SCA SCH SCO SER SIA SIB SIE SIK SLO SLV SOM SOV SPA SPR SUD SWE SYR TAJ TAN TEX TRA TRK TUN TUR UKR URU USA UZB VEN VIE WLL YEM YUG U01 U02 U03 U04 U08 U09 U10 U11 U12 U13 U14 U15 U16 U17 U18 U19 U20 U21 U22 U26 U27 U28 U29 U30 U31 U32 U33 U34 U35 U40 U41 U42 U43 U44 U45 U46 U47 U48 U49 U50 U51 U52 U53 U54 U55 U56 U57 U58 U59 U67 UTC UER UPE U70 U71 U72 U73 U75 U76 U77 U78 U79 U80 U81 U82 U83 U84 U85 U86 U87 U88 U89 U90 U91 U92 U93 U94 U95 U96 U97 U98 U99 }
decision = {
atwar = no
OR = {
money = 3000
AND = {
NOT = { IC = 80 }
money = 2000
}
AND = {
NOT = { IC = 50 }
money = 1500
}
AND = {
NOT = { IC = 15 }
money = 500
}
}
OR = {
NOT = { policy = { type = free_market value = 8 } }
headofstate = 240001 # FDR
}
}

decision_trigger = {
OR = {
money = 6000
AND = {
NOT = { IC = 80 }
money = 4000
}
AND = {
NOT = { IC = 50 }
money = 3000
}
AND = {
NOT = { IC = 15 }
money = 1000
}
}
atwar = no
}

trigger = {
atwar = no
money = 6000
OR = {
NOT = { policy = { type = free_market value = 8 } }
headofstate = 240001 # FDR
}
}

name = "9000021name"
desc = "9000021desc"
style = 2
picture = "public_jobs"
decision_picture = "decision_public_jobs"

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1914 }
offset = 120
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1999 }

action = {
name = "9000021text"
command = { type = dissent value = -2 }
command = { trigger = { IC = 80 } type = money value = -6000 }
command = { trigger = { IC = 50 NOT = { IC = 80 } } type = money value = -4000 }
command = { trigger = { IC = 15 NOT = { IC = 50 } } type = money value = -3000 }
command = { trigger = { NOT = { IC = 15 } } type = money value = -1000 }
command = { trigger = { domestic = { type = free_market value = 5 } } type = domestic which = free_market value = -1 }
command = { type = event which = 9000040 where = -1 when = 60 }
}
}

 

[Freezy]

Ah nice found it, I will experiment editting, thank you Kephas, for the quick reply!