Why does Annex Vassal no longer show what date you can begin integrating your vassal?

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I agree, I have to go to some other screens to look for "vassal since blah" date and then do the math myself. Either that or just keep checking back, which is a pain.

I hope they add this back.
 

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Agreed. This needs to be fixed. I don't want to have to check the diplo tab of my vassals all the time...
 

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I agree, I have to go to some other screens to look for "vassal since blah" date and then do the math myself. Either that or just keep checking back, which is a pain.

I hope they add this back.

It's a quality of life removal. They must have wanted to make vassal integration even harder.

Checking that date screen is needlessly annoying.
 

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I agree, I have to go to some other screens to look for "vassal since blah" date and then do the math myself. Either that or just keep checking back, which is a pain.

I hope they add this back.
Erm... math? It's exactly 10 years, it's not that hard.
Also, there is a tooltip that shows it, when You hover over the vassalage relation (on right half of diplomatic tab)
 

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Erm... math? It's exactly 10 years, it's not that hard.
Also, there is a tooltip that shows it, when You hover over the vassalage relation (on right half of diplomatic tab)

"Erm"

In order to do the math, you must know the date when you got the vassal. This was moved somewhere I wasn't aware, and it's a pain to write down or memorize obviously. More importantly, this is something that was routinely provided on the "annex vassal" button at a glance and hasn't changed one iota in the patch (it's still 10 years), so why yank useful information from the tooltip?
 
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Erm... math? It's exactly 10 years, it's not that hard

errm...before you get snarky, why don't you reread the OP's question

pre 1.8 it would tell you the date you acquired the vassal, which then every normal person would, like you mentioned, add 10 years to that... however now it no longer shows.
 

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errm...before you get snarky, why don't you reread the OP's question

pre 1.8 it would tell you the date you acquired the vassal, which then every normal person would, like you mentioned, add 10 years to that... however now it no longer shows.

Actually, pre-1.8 it would actually tell you "You can start annexing your vassal on BLAH date". No math required.

I agree though, IIWW, you don't have to be a troll here. This feature is clearly worse than it was before for seemingly no reason.
 

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Actually, pre-1.8 it would actually tell you "You can start annexing your vassal on BLAH date". No math required.

I agree though, IIWW, you don't have to be a troll here. This feature is clearly worse than it was before for seemingly no reason.
It is worse, but don't say thet adding 10 is so hard. C'mon, We're all using decimal system. The information is just in different place.
 

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You can look up the date but it's annoying.

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You can still see the date you added the vassal. In your vassal's diplomatic screen, hover the mouse over the vassal icon.

Edit: comp'ed :mad:
 

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You can look up the date but it's annoying.

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Thats what I was talking about, thank You! The information was just moved, and if You can't add 10 to this date, then maybe an "PEGI 12" game is too much for You.
 

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Thats what I was talking about, thank You! The information was just moved, and if You can't add 10 to this date, then maybe an "PEGI 12" game is too much for You.

The problem isn't the math. The problem is the extra button clicks needed to reach the information, when, as far as we can tell, there was no need to remove the old display. It's obviously just a bug or an oversight, and Paradox will fix it when they get around to it.
 

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The problem isn't the math. The problem is the extra button clicks needed to reach the information, when, as far as we can tell, there was no need to remove the old display. It's obviously just a bug or an oversight, and Paradox will fix it when they get around to it.
Well, it's not an extra click, it's on the same tab as the action is. And I think thats more of a habit. If PDS won't change that, we'll get used to this, it's not a big difference.
As for math: it's an answer to what dstarsboy wrote.