also E) cause my heir is not diplomatic enough (have a grey emmince tutor my son, get a level 2 economic guy WTF) and/or he has really sucky traits.
Why do we quit CK2?
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Lack of stuff to do. The whole "run a dynstasty" thing gets old where you'll go months without a single thing of importance happening, besides a war or two. The lack of every day and special events is what makes me quit CK games (vanilla), seeing as I can only do so much in-mind roleplaying.
Because I'm tired of futilely trying to find people to invite to my court through either of the very tedious methods currently available.
Homosexuals have children too. I tend to marry them to each other because I believe it would normally be unfair to couple them with straight persons.
Also, while in real life as a Catholic I believe that homosexual activity is immoral, I believe there is nothing immoral about merely being attracted to one's own gender and I refuse to "like" my in-game children, vassals, courtiers and others just because they have the trait. It is basically a challenge in life for them.
Well, I don't know how you play but how about playing without fabricating claims, serially or too conveniently assassinating people, especially in combination with matrilineal marriages of claimants in your court who can't refuse a matrilineal marriage? Once we remove the gamey elements (and reduce the aggressive/greedy/dishonourable actions to characters with appropriate negative traits, or remove them at all from the game), then it stops being so easy.
In my first game, I started as Poland, never attempted a single assassination or fabrication, still got myself to 300 size, although only one kingdom (could have usurped one other but didn't want to because the king was legitimate).
Well, don't need to hijack the caliphate, especially if it involves matrilineal marriages in combination with assassinations.
Well, that's power-gaming. You can try and roleplay instead. Pressing tribal Mongol invasions on everybody is not particularly defensible from the point of view of Catholic theology.
Basically play like a normal person (or normal person with specific traits on the character list), not like someone who has a set of charts and indicators and very efficiently maximises his power base. Mediaeval monarchs didn't act like that (at least not to that extent, while they did fabricate claims, assassinate people tc.).
Why? I'd have kept playing. At any rate, again, if you did something like religious/cultural conversions from a power-gaming hand-on-the-mouse meta-gaming point of view, you could try and play without doing that. In my current game, I actually have a Byzantine claimant with kids belonging to my dynasty but I don't press it because I don't want a massive war with tens of thousands of Christian troops dying on both sides (I'd win it no doubt on my own but also the Kaiser is my brother-in-law).
Sorry if I sound preachy or boring but the "pulling off something ridiculous" may be the key to your dissatisfaction. Try to play the way you want, the way you like, the way you find fun, not the way that leads to maximising your final score or your power.
There are some mongols coming yet.
At any rate, I really strong suggest that maybe playing one game in which you don't do massive powergaming (you have amply proven that you're capable to conquer half the world if you really mean it) but just simply play? In-character or in a historically reasonable way? Explore the benefits of having a good relationship with your liege and how it feels to be a loyal vassal? Or defender of your religion/culture/the poor peasants?
thank you for explaining to me why i am playing the game wrong
in the future i will try to play in a way more in line with your perceptions of how to have fun
E:
I go on crusade in the Holy Land as an Irish king and gain control of the key territories and we're about to press our claim when my ruler decides to finally die (80 or 90 years old). I lose all holdings I conquered and am stuck weakened in enemy territory. No worries, still have enough power to take it back mostly.
I proceed to take back the land I lost when the ruler passed and Get to the last sliver on Jerusalem... that rulers dies. I then try to see if I can even handle taking anything again, decide I can't and disband the troops after bringing them home. I start to rebuild and then the new ruler dies and pretenders try to counter the legitimate heir...
I called it "Good Game" right there and quit. Last game I played a couple months ago and I'm finally back. Time to take Ireland again, properly.
I go on crusade in the Holy Land as an Irish king and gain control of the key territories and we're about to press our claim when my ruler decides to finally die (80 or 90 years old). I lose all holdings I conquered and am stuck weakened in enemy territory. No worries, still have enough power to take it back mostly.
I proceed to take back the land I lost when the ruler passed and Get to the last sliver on Jerusalem... that rulers dies. I then try to see if I can even handle taking anything again, decide I can't and disband the troops after bringing them home. I start to rebuild and then the new ruler dies and pretenders try to counter the legitimate heir...
I called it "Good Game" right there and quit. Last game I played a couple months ago and I'm finally back. Time to take Ireland again, properly.
E) Bored to death waiting for my ruler to die, or between wars. Seriously, I'd love a bit more fluff.
E) Stumbling my way into a roadblock that prevents me from feeling like I am advancing. Most recently that involved starting as Derbent, annexing quite a bit of Georgia/Alania, then swearing fealty to the Seljuk so I had some insurance against the Cumans... my biggest mistake. The Sultan went from Medium to High Authority, preventing me from expanding, then formed Persia and skipped straight to Absolute Authority - after which he revoked dozens of Emirates and passed them out to every single-province-holder in the land. I lost 8 of my 12 provinces in a matter of minutes, and had no way to rush my own death to at least recombine my 4 remaining lands with the 3 my heir still held. Wasting an hour staring at the screen unable to do anything but join plots that never trigger is no fun, so off the game went.
I quit when some random nation doomstacks you out of the blue after years of hardwork. Then I delete my saves. Destroy their existence. That will show them.
E) When I have left many boats hired for the last 50 years sitting in the middle of ocean......I do a reload the next day before it.....
I just quit because a warscore of -100% is an automatic surrender, and I was the victim of a decadence invasion. All the bastard controlled was a few recently conquered provinces, and he seized all my sultanates as a result. Another month and I could have organized the troops necessary to beat him. That I lost doesn't make sense and it pisses me off.
I stopped playing my Ireland save after all my monarchs became fat. I guess evolution is Lysenkoist in CK2, since apparently obese parents produce obese children.
Yes, I'm touchy about my characters' looks
Yes, I'm touchy about my characters' looks
I got busted with a not so small amount of weed last week and my laptop is evidence material atm.
Interrupted after 630 hours:rofl:
Interrupted after 630 hours:rofl:
That's a shame! When you get it back, you will have Sultan Saladin 'the Stoned' leading the Seljuks.
Other: My war has gone on for 8 years and I'm tired of microing people across Europe and Asia Minor. I'll pick it up again in 1-3 days.