Why Do The Knight Exist in The Game?

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They are literally a pain ingame. You kill them but they just come back.

Was this some kind of inside joke by the Devs?
 
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They are literally cancer. You kill them but they just come back.
There is an event that invites an independent Catholic state that owns Malta to cede it to the Knights, if and only if the Knights have been removed from play and Rhodes has been conquered by Muslims.

If you take and hold Malta, they don't come back again :)
 
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There is an event that invites an independent Catholic state that owns Malta to cede it to the Knights, if and only if the Knights have been removed from play and Rhodes has been conquered by Muslims.

If you take and hold Malta, they don't come back again :)
They actually can get any other island on the Mediterranean owned by a catholic country
 
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There is an event that invites an independent Catholic state that owns Malta to cede it to the Knights, if and only if the Knights have been removed from play and Rhodes has been conquered by Muslims.

If you take and hold Malta, they don't come back again :)
Yes but I have to kill them twice. and they always end up allying Venice.

It's a painful war that you have to fight twice against a meme country that shouldn't exist in game. It's given the ability to raid which it shouldn't have.
 
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They actually can get any other island on the Mediterranean owned by a catholic country
The event in flavorKNI.txt definitely selects Malta and only Malta. Have I missed something somewhere else?
 
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Not sure anymore if it's a joke or not but in case it's not you really should read up on their history. It's an absolutely valid country that most definitely should have the ability to raid since they were the major pain in the Muslim ass for centuries and they stopped Ottoman expansion in the Mediterranean (see Siege of Malta).
They are the only Holy Order that survived to this day without ever stopping to function.
 
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The event in flavorKNI.txt definitely selects Malta and only Malta. Have I missed something somewhere else?
This event you mention is the one from the mission I believe. There was one before the mission was introduced that could trigger for any island.
Haven't seen it happen in a while though so might have been scrapped when the mission was introduced, I'm not going to die on this hill.
 
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Yes but I have to kill them twice. and they always end up allying Venice.

It's a painful war that you have to fight twice against a meme country that shouldn't exist in game. It's given the ability to raid which it shouldn't have.
Have you ever read anything about them?

Raiding was literally their thing for hundreds of years (1500-1800). That's almost the entire span of the game. They even captured a wife of the Ottoman sultan at some point.
 
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They are the only Holy Order that survived to this day without ever stopping to function.
Not the only one. The Teutonic Order also survives to this day without interruptions.
 
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The Knights were major pirates and slave traders. Malta was the biggest slave port in the med, and shipped slaves to all of Europe, mostly to work as galley slaves.
 
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I don't think the Knights should be able to raid Orthodox nations. They would not attack and raid fellow Christians and there churches.
 
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I personally have never felt the Knights affected me all that much. I don't even notice what they do to me.
In my case that's because I didn't buy Mare Nostrum so they don't do anything :)
 
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I don't think the Knights should be able to raid Orthodox nations. They would not attack and raid fellow Christians and there churches.

Well, they would enslave Greeks and other Eastern Christians as schismatics or Turkish collaborators if they caught them sometimes, and anyone they found on a ship they took would need to prove that they had already been Christian if they wanted to be freed, and people who claimed to be non-Catholics often had their Christian status denied, forcing them into service to repay their 'liberation'.
 
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Yes but I have to kill them twice. and they always end up allying Venice.

It's a painful war that you have to fight twice against a meme country that shouldn't exist in game. It's given the ability to raid which it shouldn't have.
Breathtakingly ignorant statement
I concur with other posters- look up the history of the Knights of St. John.
 
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Sultan Selim the first in 1520 be like ^
Rhodes fell in 1522 (after Süleyman the Lawgiver turned up with an enormous army; the siege lasted six months), and the Knights were gifted Malta in 1530 :)
 
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