why do the allies intervene?

[AngelRay]

Hi,

I'm a new player, trying to understand the game (because the tutorial is lacking, because the menus are not clear, because there are not enough optional reminders,... yes i compare it a lot to EU4 which is imo way more clear in what each option does... I am fighting against misinformation for the numerous hours I played the game... but well, I'm interested in the game, so continuing.)

I have understood the front line system (which is really not very clear, and the tutorial with Italy is... useless, at least).

I think I got the naval and air things.

Now i'm playing Germany and will start to attack Benelux. Because I want to have Poland, but I can't because it's guaranteed by France and the Uk, and my previous attempt failed with the Maginot line preventing any progress (attack 0 on my side because of the forts).
So this time, going by the Benelux to have a better front line and option to go to Paris quick with the tanks.

So I use the national focus to gain 3 war justifications to attack those lands.

I made sure to check that none of the 3 lands are guaranteed by France or/and UK (which are allies so one calls the other, anyway... )

No!
Thus it is good, let's start war before they can guarantee.

...

3 wars started. YES they are alone, without allies.

First battles.


France joins.
Call UK.
Whyyy?


I'm really stuck. It's the 10th game I start with Germany, each one giving me more informations (the first was "how to do something, where i stood for like -> 1942 without doing anything..., you get the idea) and this time, i don't get why some country can join my war.
I tried to join a war to see if there is something which is related to "world tension" (like after 40% which I will be when wars are started maybe, it's 39% now in my save before).
But no, i can't guarantee a country which is at war. And i don't seem to have an option to join an active war as I wish.

So... please, can you say, what am I missing? why do the allies join against me ?

I'm fed up with all those tries, if i don't understand this... i guess the game is not for me at all.

So before giving up, i'm posting here, hoping to understand the thing... and restart a 11th game, obviously.

Thank you for the help

 

[Diakonen]

When world tension is high enough (50, I believe), democratic countries can join factions, usually Allies, calling them into the war.

 

[AngelRay]

thanks. I will try to make 1 war then another thus.
I suppose I should have guessed this... I clicked on the "world tension" and overhead the mouse on this, but it says nothing about that.

 

[DystopianAlphaOmega]

Each ideology has a different tension threshold to be able to manually join factions. It is 40% for non-aligned (Like Poland), 80% for Democratic, and 0 for communists and fascists. Here’s some Wiki articles that might help.
Ideology
World Tension required

Guarantees allow them to Protect countries a bit sooner (at 25 tension, or even less with certain spirits/national focuses).

That said, personal anecdotal experience is that democratic countries who are attacked can join a faction sooner than 80% tension, but would need to check on this. If they and a faction are at war with a common enemy at least they will probably be able to join the faction regardless of regular ideology restrictions or party support.

 

[AngelRay]

Since this is my first real fight, i discovered that the war is a "perpetual state" but that doesn't prevent (in contrary to EU4 standard) to use my captured state, and the enemy state will capitulate (giving me land and ability to use them) but still fight from afar.

It then went to a long and muddy war in Belgium... the RAF was massacring my troops until the moment I make a breakthrough.
Then the rest is history, at this side.

I'm now fighting Poland, since I do not care about France while rebuilding a air force to strike London. But first goals first. the UK dominates the air & sea... it's fun.

 

[Simon_9732495]

If the world tension is bigger then 25% democracies can guarantee the independence of countries.
If you start justifying a wargoal they will guarantee the country.

I think you can get 2 early wargoals without guarantees but not more. I don't think it's possible to conquer Benelux and France without beeing at war with UK on historical.