Why do specialist slaves benefit from worker bonuses?
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The question remains whether specialist slaves will benefit from specialist bonuses.
Same thing as HoI4, Political Power. Political Power in Stellaris is the weight by which a strata of pops contributes to a planet's stability. If slaves have 100 PP, workers 200, specialists 500, and rulers 1000, there are 1800 total points, and slave happiness would have 100/1800, or 1/18 of the impact on that planet's stability. Rulers would contribute 1000/1800 of the planet's total stability.
At least that's how I think it works.
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If you have one of each then I believe so, yes.
If slaves have 100, rulers have 1000 and you have a planet with 10 slave pops and a ruler pop, the happiness of the single ruler contributes to 50% of the stability (1*1000) and the average slave happiness contributes to the other 50% (10*100). (Again, my understanding)
Also worth noting is that despite the name it does not contribute to how much a pop matters for national / faction influence (so a faction with 10 rulers each with 1000PP is 1/5th the size of a faction with 50 workers each with 200 PP).
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Yeah, each pop has political power, not each strata, that's my bad. You're right.
90% to 100% stability adds 3% productivity bonus.
I definitely agree with you. A 50% stable world at 100% habitability is currently better than a 100% stable world with 70 or maybe even 80% habitability. Extra amenities and faction approval in general currently have a very low impact on overall productivity. Also, can you even get more than 80% stability from happiness and PP alone?
3% is so bad
I really hope we get more changes to utopian and slave standard happiness. Still think the slavers in my multiplayer lobby have it way too easy.
They do, even with the 3.0 productivity debuffs slavery is too stable -- and given the pop growth malus and how great Raiding Stance is now, slave empires may have a bit of a buff in 3.0 overall, especially the "slave" empires which never use slavery (just capture and IMMEDIATELY naturalize xenos into full citizens).
Authoritarian slavers are in a good spot. Maybe even A tier.
But S+ tier slavery belongs to egalitarian xenophobes, even without slaver guilds.
Being able to push every newly aquired pop into the egalitarian faction without having to work for it at all is massively powerful.
It's not hard for egalitarian chattel slaves to be at 80%+ happiness, and with a bit of work, you can push them to 100%.
That being said. All slave societies are generally too stable, but the egalitarians pushing their slaves into their primary faction means more influence, more stability and overall more output than what the authoritarians can produce.
But S+ tier slavery belongs to egalitarian xenophobes, even without slaver guilds.
Being able to push every newly aquired pop into the egalitarian faction without having to work for it at all is massively powerful.
It's not hard for egalitarian chattel slaves to be at 80%+ happiness, and with a bit of work, you can push them to 100%.
That being said. All slave societies are generally too stable, but the egalitarians pushing their slaves into their primary faction means more influence, more stability and overall more output than what the authoritarians can produce.
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In 3.0.1 there was this fix:
Is anyone familiar with what exactly changed in the code? It seems odd to me that worker bonuses continue to apply to slaves in a specialist job.
Is anyone familiar with what exactly changed in the code? It seems odd to me that worker bonuses continue to apply to slaves in a specialist job.
I thought this bug was fixed in the last patch so that slave/worker bonuses no longer apply to specialist slaves?
that's way better and makes me happy I always max out that last 10% to get to 100% stability on every colony in my utopia, not just the ring