Why do some nations have a lot more bad events?

[Halaberiel]

I don't mean events specific to the nation but rather generic events like "Corruption" or other events causing you to lose stability. What triggers these events? I remember having loads of bad ones as Japan, and just now as Muscovy I am getting this event at least every 5 years. Then I play as say Austria or Brandenburg and get almost no bad events?

 

[Santoes]

Some events are triggered by having a low level adviser. Corruption always triggers for me when I hire treasurer. Hence I don't like treasurers. Other than that it's just random and can fire for no reason at all, and doesn't care who you are.

 

[ChildeR]

Having a poor ruler will also cause some. Others will be caused by high stability.

 

[Rey]

If you play as a republic, not keeping high Tradition leads to nasty events.

 

[Palp]

Open up the events files and take a look.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Also Islamic events often override some of the others, and most of them aren't that bad (none are strictly bad), meaning that an Islamic nation will, on average, endure fewer overtly negative events than other nations.

 

[atwix]

events are chosen among a list. If you got +3 stability, you got more chnce to get negative stab event.

Be glad the frequent sightings of comets are gone!

Events get chosen randomly, although having this or that trigger as a country can make certain events happen more often.

Bad rng if you get -1 stab event as religious group taker for example...

 

[Mztr44]

Some may say "confirmation bias" at work, but I sometimes wonder this as well. I've played multiple games as Nepal in the Indian region, and without fail I get streaks of that same event, Corruption is such a nasty one too, +3 inflation or -1 stab choice, either way you get majorly boned in Admin points which puts a huge hurt on a ROTW nation that can barely afford the 100-150 point cost. Having just a single loan makes it that much more likely to happen as well. I typically end up floating 8-9% inflation for a long time, and going over 10% can trigger even worse things. I can't really say that I feel like I get fewer negative events playing as a better off nation however. But it does seem like I get different ones instead of the constant barrage of "Corruption!".

 

[Santoes]

and going over 10% can trigger even worse things.

Can you tell me of an event that triggers off of 10% inflation? I've searched through most of the events with control+f and I haven't found any triggers that are related to inflation until you have over 20+ inflation. There are some that trigger for having like less than 5 or so, but those are a mix of good and bad.

 

[Clownie]

Can you tell me of an event that triggers off of 10% inflation? I've searched through most of the events with control+f and I haven't found any triggers that are related to inflation until you have over 20+ inflation. There are some that trigger for having like less than 5 or so, but those are a mix of good and bad.

iIrc higher than 15 triggers bankruptcy event for -3 (-1?) stability, +5% inflation, and -400 (-1000?) ducats.

 

[Santoes]

iIrc higher than 15 triggers bankruptcy event for -3 (-1?) stability, +5% inflation, and -400 (-1000?) ducats.

Yeah, I know about that one. It's kind of hard to trigger. You figure if you have that much inflation, and gold mines you are going to pick up economics.

I was just wondering because I'm pretty sure there isn't any high inflation events besides that one and the 20 inflation one.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Some may say "confirmation bias" at work, but I sometimes wonder this as well. I've played multiple games as Nepal in the Indian region, and without fail I get streaks of that same event, Corruption is such a nasty one too, +3 inflation or -1 stab choice, either way you get majorly boned in Admin points which puts a huge hurt on a ROTW nation that can barely afford the 100-150 point cost. Having just a single loan makes it that much more likely to happen as well. I typically end up floating 8-9% inflation for a long time, and going over 10% can trigger even worse things. I can't really say that I feel like I get fewer negative events playing as a better off nation however. But it does seem like I get different ones instead of the constant barrage of "Corruption!".

It might not actually be confirmation bias, if your different situations is leading to you significantly altering the multipliers and trigger conditions for the events. If as one nation you consistently do things that cause an event to happen 50% of the time, while as another you play it differently and that same event only happens 10% of the time because you make different choices, then it's expected you'll get it more frequently as the first nation on average.

Even now I don't have all of the advisor-based events and situations memorized.

 

[BaZERGer]

In my experience, religion has a huge impact on how often you get bad events, Catholics often just get events that can cost a bit of papal influence instead, but religions with less or no developed events can feel like they get bombarded with stability loss events, especially at the start. The flavor events for countries and cultures will likely also have an impact, if you play as a country with neither, you're stuck with only the generic events, and it seems like there's a lot more negative than there's events in the range of positive to only slightly negative.

 

[Less]

Yeah, I know about that one. It's kind of hard to trigger. You figure if you have that much inflation, and gold mines you are going to pick up economics.

I was just wondering because I'm pretty sure there isn't any high inflation events besides that one and the 20 inflation one.

I actually got it yesterday. I never take Economic because it's pure crap (better to buy down inflation manually if you have to), and I didn't think you could get Financial Ruin unless you had loans (which was how it worked in EU3 IIRC). So yeah, that surprised me when my 200 ducat a month country with 2k in bank was suddenly "on the verge of bankruptcy", lol.

 

[Freudia]

I actually got it yesterday. I never take Economic because it's pure crap (better to buy down inflation manually if you have to), and I didn't think you could get Financial Ruin unless you had loans (which was how it worked in EU3 IIRC). So yeah, that surprised me when my 200 ducat a month country with 2k in bank was suddenly "on the verge of bankruptcy", lol.

Welcome to EU4, where events that fire have zero context to the state of your nation.

 

[Santoes]

I actually got it yesterday. I never take Economic because it's pure crap (better to buy down inflation manually if you have to), and I didn't think you could get Financial Ruin unless you had loans (which was how it worked in EU3 IIRC). So yeah, that surprised me when my 200 ducat a month country with 2k in bank was suddenly "on the verge of bankruptcy", lol.

To be fair economics is purely that. You get more out of your empire in terms of income from taxes and production, and your troops maintenance becomes more manageable allowing you to field the full force limit. Inflation reduction fits into the fix all goodness of this idea which will halt increased maintenance, and base costs up to .1 a year. Seeing as the game lasts over 370 year a .1 inflation from a gold mine will most likely need to be dealt with.

I really do not like playing any of the rich countries that are going to be making 200 ducats a month as I'm more of a challenge myself style of player, so I see the need for an idea like that. I continually grow, spend every ducat, and save to keep growing. I also generally don't enjoy the colonization game as that turns into "hey I make more money then I can spend, but I used two ideas to do it."

As for being rich and having financial ruin all you have to do is look back at what happened to Spain. Remember them with all there gold? Guess what? The economy isn't really about how much gold you have. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjhIzemLdos&feature=youtu.be

 

[Less]

To be fair economics is purely that. You get more out of your empire in terms of income from taxes and production, and your troops maintenance becomes more manageable allowing you to field the full force limit. Inflation reduction fits into the fix all goodness of this idea which will halt increased maintenance, and base costs up to .1 a year. Seeing as the game lasts over 370 year a .1 inflation from a gold mine will most likely need to be dealt with.

I really do not like playing any of the rich countries that are going to be making 200 ducats a month as I'm more of a challenge myself style of player, so I see the need for an idea like that. I continually grow, spend every ducat, and save to keep growing. I also generally don't enjoy the colonization game as that turns into "hey I make more money then I can spend, but I used two ideas to do it."

It can take less than 100 years to go from 2 ducats a month to 200 ducats a month, depending on where you are, especially in 1.8. I don't intend to play 370 years, but even if I did that's only 37% inflation, which is completely ignorable if not for the financial ruin event. Not worth taking a junk idea slot to fix when you can buy it down directly or with buildings/advisors.

As for being rich and having financial ruin all you have to do is look back at what happened to Spain. Remember them with all there gold? Guess what? The economy isn't really about how much gold you have. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjhIzemLdos&feature=youtu.be

Coincidentally the economy in EU4 IS entirely about how much gold you have. And hilariously enough with CNs in EU4 Spain doesn't even suffer inflation from all of those gold mines in America, and is probably the last nation to potentially get the Financial Ruin event

 

[Artyom87]

its 1595 in my Mongol Khanate game and Iam still level 7 in ADM tech and I only cored like 3 provinces during the entire time.

i'd estimate there were about 30 administration failures (-1 stab), 15 comets, 5 currency devaluation thingies and another 10 other inflation events

I tried to keep stability at -1 or 0 the entire game. And I took administration as my first idea, which I highly regret. A simple -25% stability cost from religion would have saved me like a few thousand ADM points

Now iam playing Najd and Ive only had like 2 comets and maybe 1-2 other negative stab events in the first 100 years

 

[Santoes]

Maybe you missed the point on how the event relates to the real world. Yup.

 

[Crimen]

Welcome to EU4, where events that fire have zero context to the state of your nation.

Welcome to the real world, where printing more money does not actually make your country richer.