Why do people keep white peacing when winning a war?

[Gunnarr]

This is the second crisis to release hungary from Austria, and on one side is Russia, Austria (secondary power), and France. On the other side is Great Britain, Germany, and Italy (me).

The war is going very well, france is losing battles, same with Russia, and Austria is losing most of its land. Germany added "aquire state" Bohemia.

Yet, despite the war score being around 40% one year in, great britain white peaces with russia, despite the war going very well. (Also, it is not a great war)



Why do they keep doing this? We were going to win, and it is very frustrating when they just white peace for no apparent reason, especially when so close to winning, we would have had 100% within the next year.


The first crisis to release them was from Bavaria backing Hungary, and we were winning that one as well yet bavaria once again white peaced.


WHY

 

[Gunnarr]

I reloaded and tried again, this time bringing all my troops to fight and going straight for hungarian lands. (first time, all my troops were in egypt because I am taking Palestine)

again, great britain white peaced for no reason at all. we were 50% warscore and almost all of hungary was under allied control, and all of bohemia

is there any cheat to make great britain quit being such a aisdgs coward just for this war?

 

[blaidd]

In the release version of HoD the AI is really paranoid about long drawn out wars and wants to make peace after a year or two of fighting, even when it is winning. I haven't noticed nearly as much of that using the beta patch so it should get a lot better after they release the update.

 

[Gunnarr]

In the release version of HoD the AI is really paranoid about long drawn out wars and wants to make peace after a year or two of fighting, even when it is winning. I haven't noticed nearly as much of that using the beta patch so it should get a lot better after they release the update.

that could take months!!!

ughghghgh

 

[blaidd]

It shouldn't be months. When they released the beta patch on May 3rd they said it would most likely be around two weeks unless there was an extra lot of feedback that required more changes. Two weeks would be Friday. So probably sometime next week.

It's fairly straightforward to install the patch right now though. And it's probably the best patch ever. Well worth the half-hour or so I spent getting it working. It fixed every complaint I had about HoD.

 

[Gunnarr]

It shouldn't be months. When they released the beta patch on May 3rd they said it would most likely be around two weeks unless there was an extra lot of feedback that required more changes. Two weeks would be Friday. So probably sometime next week.

It's fairly straightforward to install the patch right now though. And it's probably the best patch ever. Well worth the half-hour or so I spent getting it working. It fixed every complaint I had about HoD.

but does it ruin save games?

 

[blaidd]

Probably. I have not tried converting one.

 

[Gunnarr]

I don't want to form italy all over again it took me a week to get this far

what is causing the countries to be like this? is there some code which has them more likely to white peace? what is the code?

 

[MajorHeartfire]

I don't know what it is, but it could be a lot of things. Perhaps they have a code about peacing out the war if they can't capture the objective - but you said you had captured the territories already.

Great Britain could be going bankrupt - as surprising as that may be. Have they lost any other wars, or significant parts of their land? The AI will peace out unnecessarily to avoid bankruptcy most of the time (the exception seems to always be the Russian Empire).

If you want to reload and try again, go after the enemy Crisis leader, who I assume is Austria. Take their capital and they should be more willing to peace out.

 

[unmerged(391327)]

Without having played HoD (so I don't know if it's really ridiculous in that game - I'm PDM), it makes sense that the AI should peace out in drawn-out wars. Even if they're winning, the AI might just think the war is too costly: they've too little to gain and they're missing out on peacetime trade and prosperity. If Krakow managed to stand up to Russia for a few years, it may make sense for Russia to peace out even if they're on the cusp of victory: the lives lost just aren't worth the prize.

The game already sort of simulates deterrence (the AI is less likely to attack you if you're powerful). It only makes sense for the AI to try to cut its losses (in too many games - take Total War, for instance - the AI will fight to the death, even if they've only a few militia left in their last province and you're ready to nuke them).

 

[esmack]

I've witnessed some fairly acute behaviour from the AI on two occasions (on HoD unpatched) that may or may not be relevant to their white peace behaviour. Firstly, as Italy, Prussia was laying into France and Austria. Not wanting to miss the opportunity to seize some cores I mobilized. France immediately capitulated to Prussia. I suspect the AI reacted to the additional threat.

Secondly, as France I was about to intervene in Morocco against the UK, NGF and Russia. Increased my stockpiling, did not mobilize and moved some troops and ships into useful positions so I could ambush them. Shortly after that both the NGF and Russia mobilized, followed by the UK. My suspicion is the AI has some excellent code to identify possible threats so it's possible this might cause some of the peace out behaviour. Perhaps the AI observes stockpiling behaviour around its neighbours?

 

[Darsara]

Have the British had a bunch of small colonies occupied? They may not be work enough to show on the total war score, but may be enough for Britain to get nervous.

 

[GAGA Extrem]

Check war exhaustion. The AI is sometimes a bit scared of that and WP out.
Apart from that, might be an issue in the internal AI logic.

 

[grommile]

Check war exhaustion. The AI is sometimes a bit scared of that

Justifiably. HoD WE has teeth; it directly reduces your industrial output.

 

[unmerged(148805)]

In the release version of HoD the AI is really paranoid about long drawn out wars and wants to make peace after a year or two of fighting, even when it is winning. I haven't noticed nearly as much of that using the beta patch so it should get a lot better after they release the update.

I've seen it just as much with the beta patch..... 3 crisis wars against Austria, all of them ending in white peace even though Austria and her ally France were getting slaughtered each time.

 

[Jake Dust]

The war is going very well, france is losing battles, same with Russia, and Austria is losing most of its land. Germany added "aquire state" Bohemia.

GB might be doing exactly because it doesn't want Germany to get its CB. The AI on HoD is much more strategic and evil, like the player.

 

[Gunnarr]

GB might be doing exactly because it doesn't want Germany to get its CB. The AI on HoD is much more strategic and evil, like the player.

why would the brits want bohemia to stay in austria hands? it looks like a tumor on the map! it is surrounded by germany, except for a small vein which connects it to austria! I say cut it off!

 

[MajorHeartfire]

Because Germany is the more powerful opponent, and giving it Bohemia would only serve to make it even more powerful. Despite being allies the UK AI might still attempt to power balance for the future. That's what it does in Crisis' a lot.