Why do I get the "sack rome" event, but sometimes I dont?

[Delpheus]

I am not understanding why sometimes when I finish besieging Rome I get the amazing sack of Rome event, it gives me 1000 ducats and other things. However, sometimes, if I need to restart and do it over again, I do not get this event. How can I know if it will happen or not, or is it just completely random?

Updated to include screenshot

 

[EarlKonrad]

Are you talking about the event related to army Profissionalism where you can either get a bunch of money and lose army Profissionalism or vice-versa, or are you talking about an event which only triggers when someone occupy Rome?

 

[Delpheus]

Are you talking about the event related to army Profissionalism where you can either get a bunch of money and lose army Profissionalism or vice-versa, or are you talking about an event which only triggers when someone occupy Rome?

There is an event that only triggers when you take Rome. It's called the sack of Rome. I couldn't find it online so that's why I'm asking.
I've been playing as Aragon and attacking Rome ASAP, and sometimes when I occpy it I "plunder the curia treasury" and reduce catholic gold and take 1000 ducats for myself, there are also other things you get positive and negative that I can't remember, I don't have a screenshot because I have not been getting the event lately. I'm trying to figure out why I get it only about 20% or less of the time.

 

[grotaclas]

There is an event Sack of Rome, but that can only happen to the papal states. You probably get the normal "Sack of X" army professionalism event. Since 1.30 it has an extra option if you sack the capital of the Papal States. But it is random if it happen. If I read the game files correctly the chance for it to happen is 1 in 11.

 

[Cancerofthehead]

Pretty sure it is random chance. I believe it is the same as the regular sack event just with the extra option if the target is the capital of the Pope.

 

[Delpheus]

There is an event Sack of Rome, but that can only happen to the papal states. You probably get the normal "Sack of X" army professionalism event. Since 1.30 it has an extra option if you sack the capital of the Papal States. But it is random if it happen. If I read the game files correctly the chance for it to happen is 1 in 11.

That sucks, only 1 in 11? That's kinda stupid random.

 

[grotaclas]

That sucks, only 1 in 11? That's kinda stupid random.

Why do you think that is stupid? Would you want to sack every fort province that you siege down?

 

[Cancerofthehead]

Why do you think that is stupid? Would you want to sack every fort province that you siege down?

yes, it’s already annoying enough with how often you sack a city you’re u want to integrate as a profitable art of your empire, let alone sacking your own capital

 

[Delpheus]

Why do you think that is stupid? Would you want to sack every fort province that you siege down?

Its extremely annoying that it's so random.

 

[Sharples88]

Why do you think that is stupid? Would you want to sack every fort province that you siege down?

Yes. I like to punish my enemies for making level 8 forts.

 

[KRBLACK]

There is an event Sack of Rome, but that can only happen to the papal states. You probably get the normal "Sack of X" army professionalism event. Since 1.30 it has an extra option if you sack the capital of the Papal States. But it is random if it happen. If I read the game files correctly the chance for it to happen is 1 in 11.

How do you know the chance of it occurring?

 

[grotaclas]

How do you know the chance of it occurring?

From the file common/on_actions/00_on_actions.txt:

on_siege_won_country = {
// I cut a long section which only applies to wars between Thuringia and Saxony 
    events = {
        tyw_events.14 # Fall of Prague in Religious War
        flavor_oir.5 # Oirats capture Beijing
    }
    random_events = {
        10 = army_professionalism_events.1 #City Sacked
        100 = 0
    }
}

So the weight for no event to happen is 100 and the weight for the sacking event is 10 which results in a 10 in 110 or 1 in 11 chance for the event to happen when all its conditions are met. The event itself contains some trigger conditions which prevent it from happening if at least one of the following conditions is true:

• professionalism is at least 50 and the province doesn't belong to a rival
• the country had the event in the last 35 years
• the owner of the province had one of their provinces sacked in the last 40 years
• the province itself was sacked in the last 50 years(this sets the flag "was_magdeburgerized" which I think is very fitting)
• the province doesn't have a fort
• the province has less than 15 development

There is also the following section in the event file:

    is_triggered_only = yes
    
    mean_time_to_happen = {
        days = 1
        modifier = {
            factor = 0.5
            army_professionalism = 0.30
        }
        modifier = {
            factor = 0.5
            FROM = {
                owned_by = PAP
                is_capital = yes
            }
        }
    }

I'm not sure how that interacts with the chance. Maybe the weight gets halved for the capital of the papal states and if the country has at least 30% professionalism

 

[EarlKonrad]

From the file common/on_actions/00_on_actions.txt: [...]

So the sack event can trigger on any fort province? I was under the impression that you could only sack capital provinces.

 

[grotaclas]

So the sack event can trigger on any fort province? I was under the impression that you could only sack capital provinces.

I think I have seen it on non-capital provinces. The condition in the code is fort_level = 1. I'm pretty sure that this means that the fort level is at least 1.

 

[Delpheus]

So the sack event can trigger on any fort province? I was under the impression that you could only sack capital provinces.

I'm curious what makes the one on Rome unique and if the conditions are any different than normal. And also if there are any other cities with unique events upon sacking them.

 

[Delpheus]

It took me 21 restarts to get this event again but here it is...
You get TONS of money.
And it does seem to be completely random because i just reloaded the same save without changing anything.

 

[Cancerofthehead]

I'm curious what makes the one on Rome unique and if the conditions are any different than normal. And also if there are any other cities with unique events upon sacking them.

Pretty sure it is just the exact same event with just another option conditional on it being the Pope’s capital (not specifically Rome). Much like how many events have additional options if your ruler has a specific trait.

 

[grotaclas]

I'm curious what makes the one on Rome unique and if the conditions are any different than normal.

Roma doesn't get a unique event. The event from your screenshot is just the normal event that gets a different third option if it happens for the capital of the papal states. The MTTH-modifiers that I posted above, might make it less likely for the event to happen for the capital of the papal states.

And also if there are any other cities with unique events upon sacking them.

"Capital of the papal states" is the only thing that changes this sacking event. There are a few other events that happen when occupying a province in some circumstances. I think the only real sacking event is Fall of Prague that was mentioned in the code section that I posted above which contains the following two events:

tyw_events.14 # Fall of Prague in Religious War
flavor_oir.5 # Oirats capture Beijing

And if the Synthetics occupy a province it is ceded to them. And then there are a few events for the country that lost the siege or got occupied.

 

[Cancerofthehead]

So the sack event can trigger on any fort province? I was under the impression that you could only sack capital provinces.

As noted above there is a development requirement, so most often it will be on capitals. But, it definitely happens non-capitals.