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Last night I had the colonists in Curacao revolt. Not the natives; the friendly folk in the trendy red and black uniforms.

The place was a level 1 colony, and working on my normal "integration policy" towards natives, I'd wiped them out - every last man, woman and child before settling.

The church has a revolt risk of 0 - when I mouseover it, I get a tooltip saying that colonies don't have enough people to have a revolution.
("Tell that to the families of those massacred in the uprising" I muttered. The island went from ~120 population to 47.)

I thought that combination of being a non-city colony and having 0 natives made a province immune to revolts. What have I missed?

If it helps, I had a large badboy (~50*) and a war weariness of about 5 at the time.

M_W.
*Annexation in Europe after DOW (without a CB) on an ally is expensive. :(
 

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I never seen anythin gsaying not enough people to revolt before. Also, I've never played through a game wihtout at least one of my colonies revolting. It could be a random thing, and when did you check your revolt risk? War exhaustion, a drop in stability, or a wave of obscurantism event might have raised the revolt risk to positive territory. My weirdest story there was when I had a level 1 tradepost revolt with 3,000 rebels :eek: . Where the devil did they all come from?
 

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zacharym87 said:
I never seen anything saying not enough people to revolt before. Also, I've never played through a game without at least one of my colonies revolting.

That's strange. It says it in the Church, in the revolt risk section. At least, I'm pretty sure it does. I'll have a look when I get home from work...
It's the only time I've ever seen a colony revolt.

I've had many province/city revolts before. Especially nationalism-based ones - someone at Paradox has an idea of what 1% means, and it's different to my understanding of it! (Is this a cumulative value? 1% per month cumulative -might- cover the number of revolts I had last game, after taking 3 French provinces. I had roughly one revolt every 18 months, per province...)

zacharym87 said:
It could be a random thing, and when did you check your revolt risk? War exhaustion, a drop in stability, or a wave of obscurantism event might have raised the revolt risk to positive territory.
Well, at -9 for religion and then a further bonus for +3 Stability, I'd need to have had something significant happen.
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind having a revolt in places at times, I was just surprised that it happened somewhere I thought to be safe...

zacharym87 said:
My weirdest story there was when I had a level 1 tradepost revolt with 3,000 rebels :eek: . Where the devil did they all come from?
They had cross-border support from a nearby power who was seeking to destabilise you?
At last! Covert Operations! (Now, if I can only figure out how to do that to the AI...)
 

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Random event I am guessing.

Event [02] Colonial Uprising :p
 

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Melb_Wiz said:
That's strange. It says it in the Church, in the revolt risk section. At least, I'm pretty sure it does. I'll have a look when I get home from work...
It's the only time I've ever seen a colony revolt.

Very true - colonies have too small a population to have a revolt risk in % - they are large enough to have random events though, colonial uprising as Braedonnal mentions and possibly also religious revolts (although colonies will usually have your religion;))
 

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Ahhhh... Thanks.

That makes sense.

So, my lesson from this is "no place is safe from a revolution."

Which translates into "don't leave hard-to-reach places without an anti-revolutionary force." Curacao isn't actually hard to reach of course - provided one's closest fleet is nearer than the Canaries ...

(I guess that the same argument extends to preventing other colonial powers from overrunning colonies, but on wimpy aggression, they almost never declare war on me, anyway ... and storming their capital seems to quench their desire to fight.)

Thanks for the lesson.