Why DLC policy is a risky business move for *specifically* Paradox

  • We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.
Status
Not open for further replies.

Honeycone

Private
10 Badges
Mar 8, 2015
12
3
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Magicka: Wizard Wars Founder Wizard
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Shadowrun Returns
  • Prison Architect
  • Magicka
The current DLC policy Paradox has is presumably making a humongous profit, seeing as they keep doing it despite very vocal backlash from their fanbase. I however, think it could be a destructive business decision for Paradox in the long-term. I’ll explain why.

Most Paradox games are notorious for their complexity. Some of their hallmark games such as Europa Universales or Crusader Kings are presumably the most complex games I have ever seen. It is *not* easy for new players to start playing such games that have such a steep learning curve. It is for that reason Paradox is dependent on fanbase retention far more than other gaming companies.

This is why I am skeptical of the long-term effects of the current DLC policy. It may have an impressive profit margin, but it is also very effective at upsetting the fanbase. The general impression of Paradox has changed over the past two years. It went from well respected, to humorous DLC spammer, and is now beginning to reach disrespected and untrustworthy. How long until Paradox start to lose more fans than they can regain (due to the difficulty of adopting new players for Paradox specifically)?

Paradox has to have an income if it is to survive as a company. Releasing DLC is a good way of earning money, as it has a great cost-time ratio. However, there can be a way to release DLC whilst simultaneously not upset the hard to acquire fanbase. The only thing that matters in terms of how a DLC pack is received, is its perceived value. Not its actual value, as in time / money spent to develop it, but its perceived value. The #1 complaint I see regarding the DLC is that it is overpriced. I urge Paradox to review its DLC policy, as it seems to be destroying the hard to aquire fanbase of Paradox.

(Keep in mind that “DLC spamming” is not the only way to make money. Take the Diablo series from Blizzard for example. Many of the features sold as DLC from Paradox would be added as free updates in Diablo.)
 

mrwrong

First Lieutenant
28 Badges
Oct 9, 2007
218
56
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Stellaris: Federations
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Imperator: Rome - Magna Graecia
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • 500k Club
  • Victoria 2
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
Who's upset with their DLC policy and why ?

It's not like they're forcing anyone to buy their DLC ....and often times they release free improvements to the game that affect everyone . i mean if you don't like DLC and just buy the base game they improve it for you for free as the years pass , that's a win win for everyone ..

and for those who really DO like the games that we've purchased and want to see them continue to grow over the years the DLC policy is fantastic , i'm a huge HOIV fan , it's likely that i'll end up buying every single peice of DLC they ever come out with for the game ... i want to see hearts of iron grow as large and as complex as possible ..

i just don't understand why people would be against voluntary consumer purchases .
 

Sebba

Private
12 Badges
Apr 9, 2017
21
1
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Victoria 2
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Magicka 2
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Stellaris
  • BATTLETECH
  • Surviving Mars
  • BATTLETECH: Flashpoint
Honeycone you're absolutely correct and managed to sum up the problem in an eloquent way. They are taking the "lazy way", eg raising prices on 10+ year old content, delivering sub-par content for ridiculous prices, and acting like they have a legitimate reason for this other than "Greed". Who do they think they are fooling?
 
Last edited:

iSilenTgr

Recruit
13 Badges
Feb 15, 2017
7
0
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Imperator: Rome Sign Up
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Pillars of Eternity
i just don't understand why people would be against voluntary consumer purchases .

Because they don't want to pay for things that should be in the base game to begin with.
 

mrwrong

First Lieutenant
28 Badges
Oct 9, 2007
218
56
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Stellaris: Federations
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Imperator: Rome - Magna Graecia
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • 500k Club
  • Victoria 2
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
Because they don't want to pay for things that should be in the base game to begin with.

What they're doing goes SOOOOO far beyond the base game i can't even believe you said that ... People have derived HUNDREDS of hours of enjoyment out of these games some i hear more than 100's of hours ( scary ) ....
 

Had a dad

V g H
Moderator
213 Badges
Sep 5, 2008
25.569
3.573
  • Stellaris: Nemesis
  • 500k Club
  • Paradox Order
  • Crusader Kings II: Limited Collectors Edition
  • 200k Club
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Victoria 2 Beta
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Diplomacy
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Field Marshal
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • PDXCON 2017 Standard Ticket holder
  • Crusader Kings Complete
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Prison Architect
  • VtM - Bloodlines 2
  • Imperator: Rome Sign Up
  • Crusader Kings III Referal
  • PDXCon 2019 "Baron"
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Crusader Kings III: Royal Edition
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Victoria 3 Sign Up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: By Blood Alone
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Rome Gold
  • Elven Legacy
  • Elven Legacy Collection
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
The DLC policy has been debated to death, please read all the previous threads about the subject matter and if there is something you feel has been overlooked, PM me and I'll reopen this thread so you can post the new information here
 
Status
Not open for further replies.