For someone ranting about technicalities, you might try to get the spelling right. It's Charlemagne, not Charlemange.
BRKNG! Charlemagne hated French people for calling him Charlemagne!Charlemagne hated the jews!
Yes, but close doesn't count in the eyes of the OP; we must be absolutely precise. Lecture 45 of The Other Side of History states that the term "Crusade" wasn't invented until the 18th century, so that's out. "Cruce signatus," another phrase for crusader which means "signed with the cross," didn't get first used until the late 12th century. Perhaps the German phrase has a similar date of origin, which would make it invalid for the First Crusade. Everything I've read states that that squad called themselves pilgrims and nothing more. Since most were French, the contemporary word would have been "pèlerin." Perhaps "Conte Pèlerin" was proposed for the title back at Paradox HQ but their marketing department shot it down
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BRKNG! Charlemagne hated French people for calling him Charlemagne!
He was of Occitan culture after all.
Richard the Lionheart was a French King of England. I don't really know what is so difficult about him.
Definitely. I don't know if the English are proud of him, but with actual heroes in their history I don't see why they should be proud of a ruler who viewed England as a source of manpower and taxes to advance his standing as a Duke of France.
He is amongst the most beloved of our kings. Mostly because his brother John was seen as responsible for the taxes and imposts levied against the people to support the crusade and the ransoms.
When I started learning about the middle ages, one the first things I found out was that "Cœur de Lion" was popular because he had a brother to do all his unpopular stuff for him.He is amongst the most beloved of our kings. Mostly because his brother John was seen as responsible for the taxes and imposts levied against the people to support the crusade and the ransoms.
This thread is weird. In English the man is known as Charlemagne, and it is commonly understood that his name means "Chales the Great". If they call Charlemagne "Karl the Great" or "Karol der Große" or any such thing they would confuse more people than they would make happy. At least as far as English-speakers go.
As for whether he was French or German... national identies as they exist now developed over a millenia after his death. He certainly wasn't French in the way that Molière was French, but neither was he German the way that Goethe was German. He's a Northern European Aenaes–let him be part of people's myths and move on.
He was Occitan of culture, Angevin of ethnicity and king of the English. He is the nightmare of any nationalists.![]()
A dream for Anglo-French unionists.
Yes, but French will be serfs of English.Wait wait... is that... is that a thing?
Wait wait... is that... is that a thing?
It was.
At one point we even technically had the same king.
Henry V of England was the (semi-)legal heir to Charles VI of France after their particular round of the Hundred Years War. This left Henry VI as technical heir to France upon Henry V's death, but the French (not surprisingly) declared for their former Dauphin.
Had Henry V succeeded and ruled for some years, the thrones could have been merged.
Now it's less of an ambition though, although there was talk of France trying to join the commonwealth at one point, and even talk of France accepting the Queen of Britain as nominal head of state at one point after the second world war.
Now it's less of an ambition though, although there was talk of France trying to join the commonwealth at one point, and even talk of France accepting the Queen of Britain as nominal head of state at one point after the second world war.
I already answered this. It's not stupid, because it's french, it's stupid, because it's wrong. Therefor it's a stupid (because it's wrong) french (because it's the french version) name.
Sounds like great idea for HoI IV AAR.During the last days of the Battle of France, Churchill proposed a union of the two countries. It read:
"France and Great Britain shall no longer be two nations, but one Franco-British Union. The constitution of the Union will provide for joint organs of defence, foreign, financial and economic policies. Every citizen of France will enjoy immediately citizenship of Great Britain, every British subject will become a citizen of France."
During the last days of the Battle of France, Churchill proposed a union of the two countries. It read:
"France and Great Britain shall no longer be two nations, but one Franco-British Union. The constitution of the Union will provide for joint organs of defence, foreign, financial and economic policies. Every citizen of France will enjoy immediately citizenship of Great Britain, every British subject will become a citizen of France."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-British_Union#World_War_II_.281940.29